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re: Pittsburgh 74 @ LSU 63 Final - CBSS

Posted on 11/22/24 at 9:28 am to
Posted by 420
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Posted on 11/22/24 at 9:28 am to
LSU has to limit turnovers. Pitt turns it over at one of the lowest rates in the entire country. If LSU is careless with the basketball it would take another Kansas St. like rebounding effort to make up for the extra possessions.

On another note, even though it's a neutral site, playing in a hotel ballroom with a shallow back drop should lend itself to a decent shooting shooting day for both teams I would think
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34266 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 9:41 am to
quote:

LSU has to limit turnovers. Pitt turns it over at one of the lowest rates in the entire country. If LSU is careless with the basketball it would take another Kansas St. like rebounding effort to make up for the extra possessions.


Absolutely!

It's been the biggest killer of LSU's offense for over two years now. LSU doesn't shoot the ball that poorly. They just turn the ball over like it is their job. What that does is lessen LSU's shot attempts and increases the opponent's. Shooting 50% on 50 FGA results in less made baskets than your opponent shooting 45% on 60 FGA.
Posted by Circle K Beggar
Somewhere in the lower 48
Member since Feb 2011
7543 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 9:55 am to
I’m encouraged with our squad after that showing against Kansas State. Looking forward to seeing how we stack up against a formidable opponent. Should be a good litmus test for what this team is capable of.

Much more optimistic about the basketball program than the football program at the moment
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
17913 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 10:12 am to
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Small sample size, but they’ve looked like 2 completely different teams between K State and Charleston Southern


Agreed, I was a bit concerned about how much we got pushed around and beaten on all the 50/50 ball by Charleston.

Effort will always be non-negotiable for me but I understand motivation as a factor. I think this game will tell us more than any other so far this year.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
11800 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 10:21 am to
is CBSSN streamable?
Posted by lsu4life77
Member since Jun 2010
1513 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 10:23 am to
Looks like the ball may hit the celling. Are they playing in a ball room.? Will there be a line dance before or after the game?
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34266 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 10:34 am to
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Are they playing in a ball room.?


Yes.


quote:

Effort will always be non-negotiable for me but I understand motivation as a factor. I think this game will tell us more than any other so far this year.


I agree. If you get dominated on the glass it is almost always because the other team simply played harder. Vs. CSU they were sending 3-4 guys to the rim on every CSU shot. LSU looked dumbfounded, standing flat footed as CSU crashed the board. That was a complete reversal from the game at KSU.

The trend for McMahon has been to play well in the holiday tournament then fall off throughout the remainder of the non-conf. schedule...before playing well to start SEC play. (Even in 2022-23 LSU struggled to beat lesser opponents following a sold performance in the holiday tournament).

Last year LSU should have beaten a good Dayton team. They then beat North Tex. and Wake Forest. After that things went south.

This year LSU played well in their first jump in competition (just like they have in the past). This weekend should give us an idea if LSU can sustain that this season, or if the prior trend will hold...good game in the first "step up", downhill after that.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75947 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 10:38 am to
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is CBSSN streamable?


I couldn't find it on the paramount app, weirdly. But I've been able to stream it from the CBS Sports app with my paramount subscription.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67032 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 11:16 am to
Time for Robert Miller to make an impact.
This post was edited on 11/22/24 at 11:16 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67032 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 11:20 am to
I like the matchup with Bailey for us. Let’s see if he’s up for the challenge.
Posted by Pnels08
Member since Jul 2014
10194 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 11:30 am to
Someone else said it but if this is a half court slower game LSU might get cooked. LSU needs to look to push the pace throughout the game.


That starts with rebounding and getting into transition, that's why the looked good against K-state (along with defense).

Also it's time for Jalen Reed to have a good game, Matt said it in the post game after Charleston southern. He still expects Reed to have a big year so it's time for that to start.
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
19821 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 11:46 am to
What a shitty venue. A low-ceiling hotel meeting room that seats about 200 people. And the floor is probably shitty as hell. Hope we don’t have any serious injuries from this tournament like WBB with Sa’Myah Smith on that shite floor in the Caymans last season.
This post was edited on 11/22/24 at 11:49 am
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 11/22/24 at 11:47 am to
Posted by GMoney2600
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:08 pm to
It's on Streameast
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
24847 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:14 pm to
got LSU +7.5
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
7684 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:29 pm to
If you are at the Greenbrier, be sure to tour “The Bunker” !
Posted by Mountaineerfan7
Virginia
Member since Oct 2008
759 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:36 pm to
Rooting for yall today. GO TIGERS
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
17913 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

If you get dominated on the glass it is almost always because the other team simply played harder. Vs. CSU they were sending 3-4 guys to the rim on every CSU shot. LSU looked dumbfounded, standing flat footed as CSU crashed the board. That was a complete reversal from the game at KSU.


I did not see the K-State game so I can't really comment on it other than from pure perception from looking at the stats.

But I did see the Charleston game live and they had some size and we really didn't handle it to well. Not sure how much of that was lack of effort and motivation or we just may not match up well against big, physical teams.

Time will tell but I've seen enough of the latter the last two years to be concerned.
Posted by Klingler7
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
12546 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:00 pm to
Hopefully LSU doesn’t get embarrassed today. Not sold on McMahon but whatever.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34266 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:11 pm to
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But I did see the Charleston game live and they had some size and we really didn't handle it to well. Not sure how much of that was lack of effort and motivation or we just may not match up well against big, physical teams.


Reed is 6'10, 240lb; Chest is physical, R. Miller is 6'10 with length, Collins is an explosive leaper. There is no reason this team should be a solid rebounding team other than a lack of emphasis/effort.

In 2018 I watched an LSU team get destroyed on the glass vs. Florida St in a game LSU had no business losing otherwise. After that, rebounding became a huge point of emphasis. Not surprisingly, LSU became one of the best rebounding teams in the nation from that point on.

Rebounding and defense is mostly effort and desire. Saying that is great, but it only comes into fruition when a coach demands both and doesn't accept anything less. I will say this though, McMahon was as visibly angry vs. Charleston So as I've seen him in much of his time at LSU. My hope is the message was heard loud and clear that if LSU doesn't want to be physical and play with effort today they will likely be embarassed.
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