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re: Pitching rotation this weekend

Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:05 pm to
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:05 pm to
I don't think Dutton is a stretch out candidate to be honest. I think they'll continue to put him in during higher leverage spots to build him up that way for the SEC. But I think he's going to be a more frequent guy than a longer outing guy.

Ulloa is on that track as well. Guidry obviously.

The only long option from the right side seems like Bucknam, but we haven't seen him at all yet. He could be a guy to come in after Jump and get his feet wet and throw multiple innings.

ETA: I wonder if they don't throw Coleman this weekend and then give him the start at Rice since he's from Houston?
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 12:07 pm
Posted by BayTiger13
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:13 pm to
I agree with that. I feel Bucknam can get you through 2 IP though. I feel he can be solid for you once through the lineup. I think you could see something like Jump 3IP, Herring 3IP, Dutton 2IP, then hopefully by that time anyone can throw the 9th or we don't even go all 9.

I did forget about Bucknam though. So that would make a lot of sense. Still think Herring might be the first out the pen just to make sure the game is hopefully in hand before going to some of the other arms. He threw Saturday but didn't reach 40 pitches so should be fine and full go tomorrow.

Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:13 pm to
Dutton’s stuff is just so flat. I don’t think he will pitch in high leverage spots unless a few guys get hurt. He’ll be a innings eater when starters get bounced early or games that get out of hand in later innings in either direction
Posted by tigerskin
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:15 pm to
Anderson is a starter but with Coleman becoming only a starter now, we may see Anderson put in in the middle of games.

Coach said that Anderson would have pitched the day before last outing if it was a tight game
Posted by BayTiger13
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:21 pm to
I think Jay ideally wants Anderson to start. He just has the confidence in him that he would use him in a spot before the Sunday game start to use him in relief to win the game if need be.

I think you see Coleman transition to the bullpen after this week. He may do what Project mentioned and start against Rice but I think he will pitch this weekend before that. No need for him to start midweeks after Rice.
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 12:23 pm
Posted by LSUnatick
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:22 pm to
Link to presser?
Posted by tigerskin
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:24 pm to
I would agree with that but It came out last week that Coleman said he had a sit down with Johnson and said that he feels it is much better for his arm to be a starter. Claims he needs that extra warmup.

Now what you want and what you get can be 2 different things…..
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:25 pm to
Jump to throw 45-50 pitches
Posted by BayTiger13
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

Now what you want and what you get can be 2 different things…..


Exactly. As long as Jump is healthy I don't think you see Coleman in the weekend rotation unless it goes very wrong for Hurd. Which I don't anticipate.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:38 pm to
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I don't think Dutton is a stretch out candidate to be honest.



Yea I believe Jay has said that he likes Dutton as a one inning guy most. Maybe one trip through the lineup.

Where Dutton tends to struggle is that second time through the order.


I see him as kind of a bridge guy. Give him the 6th inning to get us to Ack, Herring, Loer, Guidry etc
Posted by DRock88
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:44 pm to
Dutton and Hellmers will be the punt team. They've both had some success, so I'm sure Jay will keep giving them looks for other roles. But, we have so many really good arms. Bucknam probably falls into this same category.

They serve a purpose. And, we've seen times where the punt team came in, held serve, and the game took a turn in the right direction.

And, I'm not saying these guys are bad. Dutton was a weekend starter at one time. Hellmers has changed his mound location and is creating a really tough angle for hitters once he gets more used to - he was a weekday starter at one time. And, Bucknam was a nice recruit and has had some nice outings coming into the season.

ETA: Good news is their RH, so they're in the minority. This is their way in. I'm ready to see Noot.
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 12:48 pm
Posted by BayTiger13
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:58 pm to
Definitely a place for guys like that to be productive for the team. Being RH helps since as of now it seems Ulloa and Guidry are the only bullpen guys they will depend on high leverage.

Hopefully Moffet, Little, and Woods can join them. I don't understand the drop in velo in Woods though. I thought he was supposed to be upper 90s guy and he was 90-91 over the weekend.

Can't wait to see what Noot can bring the team this season. Will all depend how he feels and how rusty he is when he makes the progression in his rehab enough to get back to throwing in game.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:59 pm to
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Good news is their RH, so they're in the minority.


Still a ways to go before you get to them but perhaps could bounce one of these guys just due to strike throwing alone

Ulloa
Guidry
Woods
Little
Moffett
Posted by DRock88
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:12 pm to
Noot is a ball player. I don't expect alot of rustiness when he's ready. I think you sometimes see more rustiness from guys that are super tight strung as pitchers, and just lack general athleticism and free movement. If you watch Noot, he's butter. He's just up there cranking, loose as a goose.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:17 pm to
Moffett's outing the other day was so uneventful, it was a nice change of pace. I can't wait to see him back out on the bump.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

I think you sometimes see more rustiness from guys that are super tight strung as pitchers, and just lack general athleticism and free movement.


Must be why I'm usually rusty.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:32 pm to
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Dutton and Hellmers will be the punt team


Agreed.

quote:

Dutton was a weekend starter


quote:

Hellmers has changed his mound location and is creating a really tough angle for hitters once he gets more used to - he was a weekday starter at one time


That is more of a testament to how bad Mainieri was letting it get, rather than a testament to how good they are honestly.
Posted by DRock88
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:46 pm to
I was trying to give them a little pat on the back after calling them the punt team.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

I was trying to give them a little pat on the back after calling them the punt team


Yeah. I got you. I'm not trying to say they are terrible either. There is just some absolute dudes on this staff. Innings will be tough to come by. And just think, this staff is currently missing Noot and Shores.
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:50 pm to
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Dutton’s stuff is just so flat. I don’t think he will pitch in high leverage spots unless a few guys get hurt.


One would think this is the case, but Jay is fired up about Dutton right now. He brought him in in the 8th inning with the tying run on base in game 1.

Dutton got the save in a 2-0 game in game 2. Then in game 4 with a one tun lead in the 9th, Dutton was warming in the pen if Fidel got into any trouble.
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 1:51 pm
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