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re: Permanent Opponents - Simple Solution
Posted on 12/26/12 at 7:57 pm to Tiger Phil
Posted on 12/26/12 at 7:57 pm to Tiger Phil
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Permanent Opponents - Simple Solution
The SEC should come to a compromise solution. Basically, the schools that want permanent opponents can keep them, while the schools that do not want permanent opponents can not have them.
If we assume that Alabama/Tennessee and Auburn/Georgia are the ones that want to to keep, then we could schedule as follows:
Over a 12 year period, those schools would play each other every year, and each of the other 6 teams would rotate into their schedule, 2 years at a time. They would play the other 6 schools twice in 12 years.
After those games are scheduled, this will leave 20 open spots in the other five schools's schedules, as (for instance) LSU will play Tennessee twice and Georgia twice in those 12 years. The other five schools would then play each other 4 times (total of 20 games) over that 12 year period.
The Pac-12 reached a similar compromise with the California schools being split, but still playing every year. We should be able to make this happen.
Nick Saban, Mike Slive, and SEC Executive Officials do not endorse this. They prefer a stacked deck and easiest route for Bama sponsorship\endorsement by the SEC and ESPN for a BCSNC game invitation. The end game is the prize no matter how easy a schedule Bama is allowed to play getting there.
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Posted on 12/26/12 at 8:52 pm to Tiger Phil
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Permanent Opponents - Simple Solution
Don't have permanent opponents. That's as simple as it gets.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 9:00 pm to NATidefan
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So we stick alabama, auburn, Florida, Georgia, and UT in one division so we can keep the iron bowl, TSIO, Cocktail Party, and Auburn Georgia game.
These four games only matter to these four schools. There's only one game there that even remotely warrants making sure it's accommodated, and that's the Iron Bowl. The rest of that shite is meaningless to anyone outside of those schools and therefore should not be considered when fricking up the schedules of the remaining universities in the SEC.
Drop permanent opponents...keep BAMA and AU in the same division and play the Alabama State Championship Game. BAMA can get over not playing TENN every year, AU can get over not playing UGA every year...and we can all move on.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 9:06 pm to GeauxTigerTM
Why don't y'all just get over playing Florida every year and we can all move on. The universities voted, and the majority voted to keep these games. That's why they kept them, and they are going to keep them until the majority doesn't want to keep these games. You've dealt with for 20 years now. I don't see why this is such a big deal.
This post was edited on 12/26/12 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 12/26/12 at 9:14 pm to NATidefan
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You've dealt with for 20 years now. I don't see why this is such a big deal.
So, you obviously come to this site when free from your day job as a mediator.
Or are you a negotiator in the criminal justice system?
You have some very compelling points, I might add.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 9:22 pm to wahoocs
According to this article the only ones that have a problem with keeping things the way they are is LSU. And also it appears that obviously more had strong feelings about keeping things the way they are than changing them.
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There was a vote, it was fair. Your side lost the vote. Deal with it.
I'm not here to negotiate anything.
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There was a vote, it was fair. Your side lost the vote. Deal with it.
I'm not here to negotiate anything.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 9:56 pm to Tiger Phil
Why not embrace the idea of playing FL every year? After all, we have played them almost every year since 1953, which is more than we have played any other SEC program during this period except for Ole Piss and Moo U.
Did Tenn cry throughout the 90's when FL had an unfair advantage of playing LSU every year? The constant whining from Alleva, Miles, and our fan base really makes us look like a bunch of leaking vaginas.
We brought the idea to the table and it was shot down 11-3. LSU, SC, and A&M were the only ones in favor of getting rid of the permanent opponent. No other charter member or "big six" is in favor so let it go.
Did Tenn cry throughout the 90's when FL had an unfair advantage of playing LSU every year? The constant whining from Alleva, Miles, and our fan base really makes us look like a bunch of leaking vaginas.
We brought the idea to the table and it was shot down 11-3. LSU, SC, and A&M were the only ones in favor of getting rid of the permanent opponent. No other charter member or "big six" is in favor so let it go.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 9:59 pm to armytiger96
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so let it go.
Are we talking the USA, or the SEC?
Great advice, either way, IMO.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 10:02 pm to NATidefan
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Why don't y'all just get over playing Florida every year and we can all move on. The universities voted, and the majority voted to keep these games. That's why they kept them, and they are going to keep them until the majority doesn't want to keep these games. You've dealt with for 20 years now. I don't see why this is such a big deal.
Spoken like a true Gump. Let's keep the Bama bias going and not acknowledge the truth. FYI Gump, two other SEC schools (SC and A&M) voted with LSU to change.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 10:10 pm to tigabait01
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This is the smartest thing I've heard regarding this topic.
Such common sense, why cannot we do this??? Please?
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Simple is rotate all the teams and the ones that want to play that aren't in the rotation can schedule it as a Nonconference game.
This is the smartest thing I've heard regarding this topic.
Such common sense, why cannot we do this??? Please?
Posted on 12/26/12 at 10:22 pm to TigerEast
The SEC is already the toughest conference in football. The breaks that UGA and Bama have received in regards to scheduling are ridiculous. Permanent opponents is a concept that is no longer needed.
The assistant commissioner and person responsible for the interim scheduling prior to the new rules being used is an Alabama alum which could be at the root of the bias.
With A&M, Bama, USC, Florida, Miss. St. & Washington, and Clemson on the horizon that will be 7 ranked teams on LSU's schedule this year.
Bama played 4 ranked teams before the SEC Championship Game and will have only played 6 after the ND game including a Michigan team which was overrated at #8 in week #1. They're #18/19 now.
The assistant commissioner and person responsible for the interim scheduling prior to the new rules being used is an Alabama alum which could be at the root of the bias.
With A&M, Bama, USC, Florida, Miss. St. & Washington, and Clemson on the horizon that will be 7 ranked teams on LSU's schedule this year.
Bama played 4 ranked teams before the SEC Championship Game and will have only played 6 after the ND game including a Michigan team which was overrated at #8 in week #1. They're #18/19 now.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 10:28 pm to Tiger Phil
Why would you assume Tennessee wants to play Bama every year? That's basically an automatic loss. I understand it's a big rivalry, but still...
Posted on 12/26/12 at 10:49 pm to wahoocs
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Are we talking the USA, or the SEC?
Great advice, either way, IMO.
Neither our elected officials are takeing care of letting the USA go for us.
Letting the SEC go would just be assine. Maybe we should leave the best conference in the nation so we can be competative with Tulane agian 20 years from now. At least we would get one traditional rivalry back.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 11:12 pm to LSUsCRYSTALball
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Why would you assume Tennessee wants to play Bama every year? That's basically an automatic loss. I understand it's a big rivalry, but still...
Well they had their chance to vote against it in June and decided to vote for it AND they have played the game annually since 1928 (95 times since the first meeting in 1901).
Oh and then there is this interview where the Tenn AD states:
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"We were talking about everything so when we looked at all the alternatives presented by the conference office, there were many. Certainly, it's public knowledge, one of those considerations was do we continue permanent partners. I felt very strongly that this rivalry needed to be salvaged. Mal certainly agreed with that and others agreed with that."
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Why do you think they didn't want to keep the rivalry?
Posted on 12/26/12 at 11:26 pm to Tigerik
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Permanent opponents is a concept that is no longer needed.
If that is the case please explain why new comers to the Mega Conference status such as B1G and ACC adopted this concept in lieu of the Big XII. Certainally they had to see the flaws in this antiquated system.
Thanks to the progressive thinkers in the Big XII college football fans no longer get to enjoy OU vs Nebraska or UT vs aTm on Thanksgiving. Now we have the "rotten" egg bowl and UT vs another crappy team.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 11:41 pm to armytiger96
Good point armytiger. That answers my question 
Posted on 12/26/12 at 11:44 pm to Tiger Phil
Simpler solution: do away with the permanent opponents or move them all to the East. Problem solved.
Seriously, no one who doesn't listen to finebaum even knows Tenn and Bama have a rivalry going. No one cares outside those two fanbases.
Seriously, no one who doesn't listen to finebaum even knows Tenn and Bama have a rivalry going. No one cares outside those two fanbases.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 11:54 pm to biglego
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Seriously, no one who doesn't listen to finebaum even knows Tenn and Bama have a rivalry going. No one cares outside those two fanbases.
This is very true IMO. Seriously who cares about this besides the 2 schools
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