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re: Per LSUsports.net, Eric Walker to miss 2018

Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:32 am to
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:32 am to
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Wow!! The CWS was so hard to watch? Our team came out of the losers bracket and had to beat team TWICE that had only lost 4 games all year!! That was hard to watch???
Truly dumb!!!!


This dude clearly didn't watch a lick of LSU baseball all season. He heard his buddies talking about LSU playing Florida in the finals of the CWS, so he dug out his LSU apparel and threw it on, and began talking about how big of an LSU baseball fan he was. He watched the games Monday and Tuesday and was pissed off with what he saw, so he came to shite on what a great team accomplished.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34925 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:33 am to
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Look, I don't like CPM and think this program deserves better. The CWS was so hard to watch and it was crystal clear that he was out coached in most games.


There comes a point in every argument where you just realize there is no point in continuing the conversation.. somehow, I missed this gem. What a fricking idiot
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87989 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:33 am to
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You're really not on your best game today Ell.
You used "could" implying that it wasn't your preferred scenario. Meaning it's not what you wanted most.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
27191 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:35 am to
"Could" means: he could come out of the pen if we didn't need the if necessary game.
Posted by Merlin08
Member since Apr 2012
1760 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:35 am to
I do not agree with taking Hess out of the bullpen. This guy could be your ULTIMATE closer. We saw he could only go a few innings and to try and turn him into a starter would be idiotic. Same thing with bringing Watson into the infield. You could argue there was not a better CF in the country..why change that! Keep Hess as Closer and Watson as CF
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:36 am to
Man, that's rough. I hope he makes a full recovery. The guy played great for the Tigers this year and was an integral part of the success they had. Hopefully he has many more days on the mound ahead in his future.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
25464 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:37 am to
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You're the only one who knows that answer. The rest of humanity can't answer for sure


Ask ANYBODY who has a clue what they are talking about (clearly you don't). They will tell you that this injury started to take place probably somewhere before the CWS. This wasn't a broken bone that is going to heal itself over time by resting it. He could have not touched a baseball in the CWS and he could have rested all summer. Whenever he picked up a ball and started throwing in the fall, there is a 99% chance that he begins to have the same complications that he had in the CWS. Rest does not fix ligaments.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40140 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:37 am to
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This guy could be your ULTIMATE closer. We saw he could only go a few innings and to try and turn him into a starter would be idiotic.

Yikes. The guy clearly has the best stuff on the team. We're going to kick the tires on him as a starter. You don't just leave him in the pen because he was great in a closer's role. You try to get as many innings out of him as humanly possible because he's your best overall pitcher. Especially now that we won't have Walker to lean on.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87989 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:37 am to
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if we didn't need the if necessary game.
We didn't. So he wouldn't have. So you're now saying this would have been prevented if he didn't throw the regional or super. Can we clarify that please? I want you to say that you don't think he throws outside of games.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29723 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:38 am to
Damn, this is bad news for Eric and the team. Prayers sent for a full recovery.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26134 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:40 am to
There should be a stickied FAQ at the top today.

Q: What causes UCL injuries?

A: The cause or causes have not been determined with certainty yet. Theories are:

overwork as youth (just too many pitches)
playing baseball year round travel team instead of having an offseason (a different flavor of overwork)
higher velocity of today's pitchers
use of certain pitches
improper mechanics of some sort
exact pitch counts/inning counts causing young pitchers to go max effort knowing they have a hard ceiling of when they are coming out
and a dozen other theories

Q: Did Paul Mainieri cause this?

A: No.

Q: Would Walker missing an extra start here or there have made a difference on this injury?

A: Unlikely. UCL tears are repetitive stress injuries. Small pockets of rest during a season are unlikely to prevent these types of injuries.

Q: Did his arm look tired?

A: Apparently. On May 29, 2017, intrepid poster AtlantaLSUfan declared that Walker's arm looks tired after a game where Walker threw 7.2 innings of one run baseball. AtlantaLSUfan believes skipping a start in the regional would have prevented this injury.

Q: Seriously? Skipping one start would have prevented his injury?

A: No. That is horseshite. In fact, Walker was hurt in a simulated game he threw after the Super Regional weekend where he did not get a start.
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 11:47 am
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34925 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:42 am to
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I do not agree with taking Hess out of the bullpen. This guy could be your ULTIMATE closer. We saw he could only go a few innings and to try and turn him into a starter would be idiotic. Same thing with bringing Watson into the infield. You could argue there was not a better CF in the country..why change that! Keep Hess as Closer and Watson as CF


That's kind of like letting Joe Montana only be the QB for the two minute drill
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
25464 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:42 am to
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I do not agree with taking Hess out of the bullpen. This guy could be your ULTIMATE closer. We saw he could only go a few innings and to try and turn him into a starter would be idiotic


You do realize that in order to even get your closer into the game you need to have starting pitchers who can get you to that point, with the game within striking distance.

Would you rather have Hess pitching 6-7 innings every Friday, knowing that you have a really good chance of getting the win?

Or would you rather him in a closer role, and MAYBE pitch two or three innings on the weekend if your starters can hold the other team off and give you a chance to win?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87989 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:42 am to
We can ask an admin to add it under the OP as a "top reply"
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61428 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:44 am to
your best pitcher isn't your closer

Not at any level of baseball, ever
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34925 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:45 am to
I RA'd
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
25464 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:47 am to
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So you're now saying this would have been prevented if he didn't throw the regional or super. Can we clarify that please? I want you to say that you don't think he throws outside of games.


Is this the same dude that started a thread blasting CPM because Walker threw a simulated game before the start of the CWS?
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147075 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:47 am to
damn it... I was hoping my roommate was wrong
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40140 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:49 am to
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therick711

Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
25464 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:49 am to
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your best pitcher isn't your closer

Not at any level of baseball, ever


Well, except at the end of this year for LSU

Walker was hurt. Poche is good. Lange was great. But Hess was pitching like he was our best pitcher at the end of the season (for an inning at a time at least).

(For the retards, I'm not saying that Hess should have been a starter in the CWS. Nor am I saying that CPM is a idiot for having Hess as the closer)
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