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re: Per Culotta, LSU wants Walker Howard to get reps with the 2nd team because of Nuss’s play
Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:55 am to c on z
Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:55 am to c on z
Ok those examples are almost as old as Flynn. 12 years ago and 10 years ago
With the transfer portal, a highly rated QB will very likely not stay at the same school for 5 years.
Of course there will always be exceptions, but you don’t run your program on the notion of exceptions
With the transfer portal, a highly rated QB will very likely not stay at the same school for 5 years.
Of course there will always be exceptions, but you don’t run your program on the notion of exceptions
This post was edited on 9/15/22 at 10:59 am
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Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:56 am to JiminyCricket
Give him three games of reps, and save the 4th in case of need, and use it up at the end of the year if not used.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:56 am to moneyg
quote:I don’t understand how this isn’t universally understood by fans
Correct. The cost of not not getting Howard as many valuable reps as possible for the benefit of a possible 5th year is way too high.
That was the case BEFORE the free transfer rule existed, and it's even MORE the case now. I swear, a lot of people are in denial. The chances of a QB (of all positions) who is a difference maker, who stays at the same school for 5 years is so low, it shouldn't be part of the decision making process.
The ONLY reason to redshirt Howard is because his Dad demands it. That's it. Otherwise, it makes zero sense.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:01 am to moneyg
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Otherwise, it makes zero sense.
Makes sense for the kid. It's an insurance policy.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:01 am to lsupride87
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With the transfer portal, a highly rated QB will very likely not stay at the same school for 5 years.
Not saying it's likely, but if they are starting why not? Most transfer because they aren't getting playing time.
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you don’t run your program on the notion of exceptions
Also, I'm not saying that we should run our program around it, but why burn it if you don't have to.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:01 am to Tigerfan1274
Correct. A redshirt makes sense for the player, it doesn’t make sense for the school anymore
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:03 am to LSBoosie
quote:Its the premise of this thread. If Howard’s is your second best Qb, he should be getting second team reps and second Qb playing time. Period. If it works out that leads to him playing 4 games or less and he can RS, great. But it should never enter Kelly’s mind if “well, let’s do this instead because of the redshirt”
Also, I'm not saying that we should run our program around it, but why burn it if you don't have to.
This post was edited on 9/15/22 at 11:03 am
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:11 am to lsupride87
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But it should never enter Kelly’s mind if “well, let’s do this instead because of the redshirt”
I agree with you. If it is in LSU's best interest to burn the redshirt for the 2022, you do it. Looking at the QB room, I just don't think it is extremely far fetched to think Jayden could return in 2023 then Walker starts for three years in 2024-2026. Then we'll all be thrilled he redshirted.
This post was edited on 9/15/22 at 11:12 am
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:13 am to Tigerfan1274
I think it’s extremely unlikely a good Qb would pass up not one, but two nfl draft years
Only way that would happen would be if Howard had middling average seasons in both his 3rd and 4th years and we also didn’t bring in anyone great behind him
Only way that would happen would be if Howard had middling average seasons in both his 3rd and 4th years and we also didn’t bring in anyone great behind him
This post was edited on 9/15/22 at 11:15 am
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:21 am to lsupride87
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I think it’s extremely unlikely a good Qb would pass up not one, but two nfl draft years
Only way that would happen would be if Howard had middling average seasons in both his 3rd and 4th years and we also didn’t bring in anyone great behind him
LSU has had one QB in history that signed out of high school and left early for the NFL: Jarmarcus Russell. We've had four QBs in history drafted in the first round: Joe Burrow, Bert Jones, Jarmarcus Russell, and Y.A. Tittle. That's a lot to put on Walker before ever throwing a pass in college.
This post was edited on 9/15/22 at 11:24 am
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:52 am to lsupride87
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Its the premise of this thread. If Howard’s is your second best Qb, he should be getting second team reps and second Qb playing time. Period. If it works out that leads to him playing 4 games or less and he can RS, great. But it should never enter Kelly’s mind if “well, let’s do this instead because of the redshirt”
I agree with your point, you don't make any decision just because you can save the redshirt. I was just saying there is a chance that Daniels starts next year as well, then Walker takes over, and even then no one knows how good Walker will actually be. I'm also not convinced that Walker is your 2nd best quarterback yet, considering Nuss was in competition to be the starter up until 5 days before the first game, according to Kelly.
This post was edited on 9/15/22 at 11:54 am
Posted on 9/15/22 at 12:00 pm to Byrdybyrd05
How many other players did he mention were not playing up to potential. How many sacks does "18" have this season. How many receptions does "7" have? What about "6".
Attack a second team player for what?
Weird that Culotta has such insight, but in every Press Conference, when asked about quarterbacks, Kelly says Nuss is capable and ready.
Wait until Monday.
This time last season Damone Clark was the whipping boy for the Rant.
How did that turn out?
Attack a second team player for what?
Weird that Culotta has such insight, but in every Press Conference, when asked about quarterbacks, Kelly says Nuss is capable and ready.
Wait until Monday.
This time last season Damone Clark was the whipping boy for the Rant.
How did that turn out?
This post was edited on 9/15/22 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 9/15/22 at 1:37 pm to Chicken
Brian Kelly is not a dumb guy. He did not think those 2 were neck and neck. There is such a thing as coach speak and not bagging on a kid when they are down.
He’s not going to come out and say it wasn’t close. If he does that, his relationship with Nuss and also future QB recruits becomes a bit tenuous.
Anyone with eyes knows these 2 aren’t close. Nuss arguably hasn’t had a positive game rep in 2 years now. Jayden had 2 seasons of solid game reps. I’m sure the difference in practice was as glaring as it is during the games.
He’s not going to come out and say it wasn’t close. If he does that, his relationship with Nuss and also future QB recruits becomes a bit tenuous.
Anyone with eyes knows these 2 aren’t close. Nuss arguably hasn’t had a positive game rep in 2 years now. Jayden had 2 seasons of solid game reps. I’m sure the difference in practice was as glaring as it is during the games.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:00 pm to Byrdybyrd05
Jorand Culotta says stupid things like this to generate attention. He dumb.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:49 pm to lsupride87
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he should be getting second team reps and second Qb playing time. Period. If it works out that leads to him playing 4 games or less and he can RS, great.
Absent injury to Daniels, what's the likelihood of the 2nd team QB getting game reps in conference play? Pretty slim, I'd say. So if he gets 2nd team reps in games against UNM and UAB, he's only played 3 games.
I agree that redshirting him shouldn't drive much of the decision, but only IF Kelly believes Howard is the answer next year.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 3:12 pm to Byrdybyrd05
As much as I don’t mind it, we ain’t gonna see the second string this week.
I wouldn’t play him at all, but I ain’t his coach or Dad.
I wouldn’t play him at all, but I ain’t his coach or Dad.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 4:46 pm to Chicken
I think Nuss was honestly pressing on that game. He wanted so badly to play top tier to get back the starting spot. I believe that made him make horrible decisions at times and just force his throws.
He is a more than adequate backup if he gets beyond it. No need to burn Howard’s redshirt, but I think he will get time time over the course of the season.
Also might be a tactic to get Nuss focused and back on track.
He is a more than adequate backup if he gets beyond it. No need to burn Howard’s redshirt, but I think he will get time time over the course of the season.
Also might be a tactic to get Nuss focused and back on track.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 5:05 pm to Byrdybyrd05
I don't get the love of the redshirt. If he's good he's gone after 3 years anyways.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 6:04 pm to Byrdybyrd05
If Kelly could see the potential of Daniels, and it appears he was accurate in his evaluation, why do you doubt his evaluation of Nuss?
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:32 pm to Byrdybyrd05
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He said because of Nuss’s bad decisions last week, LSU was going to talk with Jamie Howard about getting Walker Howard some reps with the 2nd team even though they all agreed for Walker to be redshirted this year. People have said that Walker has the best arm out of all the quarterbacks.
LOL if anyone thinks what they saw from Nussmeyer was in any way better than what Myles Brennan could do you're on crack. If Brennan is 2nd string they hang 100 on Southern.
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