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Pelini coming under fire, but I don’t think Linehan has received enough criticism

Posted on 10/11/20 at 11:43 am
Posted by Mr6daveyobrians
Member since Dec 2013
1766 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 11:43 am
Prior to this season, Scott Linehan was brought in as our PGC, and considering Brennan’s success this year, it might seem he isn’t doing that poor of a job.

HOWEVER, he is also our playcaller, on 3rd downs and in the Redzone. Orgeron lauded his hire, speaking of his proficiency in RZ playcalling. Yesterday LSU was 0/10 on 3rd downs, and was stopped on the 1 four plays in a row and to lose the game. 9/39 on 3rd down this year.

Criticize Ensminger as much as you want, it’s clear whatever he is doing is much more effective than Linehan.

EDIT since people don’t actually seem to know this?: LINEHAN ONLY CALLS ON 3RD DOWN AND IN THE RZ, where we have been absolutely horrible this season.
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 11:50 am
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37365 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 11:44 am to
41 points, 400 yards passing. While it doesn’t appear to be creative like other offenses, it’s not our most pressing need for the team or even offense.
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4300 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 11:45 am to
Sure, Linehan isn’t panning out, but we score 41 fricking points and lost. That puts the heat more in Pelini. It’s his unit that has lead to this 1-2 start.
Posted by Mr6daveyobrians
Member since Dec 2013
1766 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 11:46 am to
I don’t think you read the post. Ensminger calls most of the plays for this offense. Sure, maybe Linehan helped scheme, but his playcalling has been nothing short of horrendous this season.

We had 4 plays on the 1 yesterday for a win and couldn’t convert 1.
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 11:50 am
Posted by BK785
Member since Feb 2013
3178 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 11:48 am to
Linehan hasn't impressed me much but he's not too bad. If Pellini would have fielded just a half decent defense, LSU would/should be 3-0. Offense has scored enough in all 3 games to win comfortably but this defense is an embarrassment.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35804 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 11:48 am to
O > D
No doubt about that. There are definitely way more pluses on O than on D.
But there are issues. I see too many WRs playing and a lack of continuity. I see a need to key in one or two TBs and quit taking turns. I see a need to get done kind of goal line/ short yardage package going. Maybe a wildcat? Maybe something out of the I?
Brennan isn’t mobile so we need a package to offset that. We need yo quit sending our FB on seam routes. Overall we need to get tougher and more physical.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22362 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 11:49 am to
To be fair we have put up all those points against MSU, Vandy, and Mizzou! Not really the upper echelon on college football defenses or any where close.

0-game on 3rd down is really really bad. RZ efficiency seems to be a concern as well.
Posted by Nobelium
Member since May 2018
821 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 11:50 am to
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This post was edited on 4/17/21 at 7:56 pm
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
18955 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 11:52 am to
quote:

Scott Linehan 


The redzone & 3rd down inefficiency deserves constructive criticism but at the same time, the criticism being directed his way should dwarf the criticism of Pelini & rightfully so.

The defense has been downright awful while on the otherhand, the offense is still managing to produce yardage & points. The defense hasn't been able to stop 2 of the worst offenses in the SEC. Not only have they not stopped them, they have allowed record setting performances.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24227 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 11:52 am to
quote:

41 points, 400 yards passing. While it doesn’t appear to be creative like other offenses, it’s not our most pressing need for the team or even offense.

True. The overall passing game is good and we should have won easily with the offense that was provided. But the 3rd down play calling is a disaster. Many Screens and conservative passes near the line of scrimmage that do nothing. And the red zone playcalling at the end of the game showed zero imagination. When your defense sucks like ours does right now, you need the offense to be good and the offensive play calling to be creative in crunch time.
Posted by Laffy Taffy Tiger
Lake Charles
Member since Aug 2019
1146 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 11:54 am to
It all makes me sick because Marshall looked like he was trying to move the ball to pylon before he he the ground
Posted by Rougarou13
Brookhaven MS
Member since Feb 2015
6839 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 11:56 am to
While I agree Linehan should be on the block too, we can at least work with what he’s giving us. Defense is embarrassing though...and it’s not the Joe’s. It’s scheme and coaching. We’ve gotten TORCHED by two bottom of the barrel SEC teams that should have been warm ups. Both first year coaches. Both implementing new schemes.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 11:57 am to
quote:

Criticize Ensminger as much as you want, it’s clear whatever he is doing is much more effective than Linehan.

if Ensminger isn't good enough to call plays on 3rd down or in the rz and he isn't, HE SHOULD NOT BE THE OC AT ALL.

Tell me how many oc's in this country don't call plays on 3rd down. By far the most important part of offense. E as OC is the absolute stupidest thing in all the American football world.

He couldn't install a modern offense
He can't call 3rd down plays
He can't call rz plays
He can't develop wrs
He can't develop ol
Not a single school in this country but O wanted him.
At least Youngstown state wanted Pelini.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
18955 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 11:58 am to
quote:

To be fair we have put up all those points against MSU, Vandy, and Mizzou!


We will put up points & numbers against the top teams in the SEC as well when the time comes.

quote:

0-game on 3rd down is really really bad. 


This is the major problem here with the defense being as bad as it is. Despite all the yardage & points, the inabilities on 3rd down don't allow the offense to have more of a control of the pace of the game. Yes, they can score & score quickly but that only creates a track meet fell to the game instead of being in complete control even with the terrible defense.

There were opportunities yesterday where the defense actually got a stop or a turnover, giving the offense the chance to open up the lead yet they ultimately failed because they couldn't convert on 3rd downs.
Posted by LesGeaux45
Member since Nov 2009
9232 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 11:59 am to
There's areas to improve, but when you're averaging 40 points and 400-500 yards per game, you shouldn't be 1-2 against the dregs of the SEC.

We're where we are because of the defense. Yeah the end of the game goal line sequence was maddening, but they shouldn't have been in that situation to begin with. You score 41 against Mizzou and you should be winning comfortably.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18008 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 12:00 pm to
Good thing for those 3 fumbles or the game would not have been close. 3 yard drive for a td and 7 yard drive for a FG. Do not remember the 3rd fumble results.
There was NO running game either - NONE.
This is a BAD and horribly coached football team and outside of the kicking game, it ALL needs major improvement.
Posted by LSU_ARMY
Houston
Member since Oct 2013
147 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 12:14 pm to
It's tough to call 3rd downs when it's 3rd and long so often (there were a few 3rd & shorts). I'm not a fan of the PGC calling plays on 3rd downs bc it feels too predictable imo. Brennan threw close to 50 passes and the Tigers only ran the ball 20 times, there has to be more balance. LSU doesn't run enough short to intermediate routes to allow the defense to know what's coming. Personally, the lack of adjustments from this staff has been extremely disheartening. There are ways to prevent defenders from pinning their ears back but it didn't appear that the coaches even noticed.
Posted by coldcace06
Member since Oct 2014
212 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 12:32 pm to
Linehan was a awful hire. He was literally hired for 3rd down and redzone and cant improve this team at all like 0-10 you cant covert 1 3rd down to keep your horrible D off the field
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52127 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

To be fair we have put up all those points against MSU, Vandy, and Mizzou! Not really the upper echelon on college football defenses or any where close.


Joe Burrow only scored 36 on State last year.

Go take a gander at SEC passing defenses, no one is much better
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52127 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

Linehan was a awful hire. He was literally hired for 3rd down and redzone and cant improve this team at all like 0-10 you cant covert 1 3rd down to keep your horrible D off the field

Offensive line can't open holes for the run game, no run game = 3rd and long all game
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