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re: Overrated proven losers. How do they do it?
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:42 am to SwampManiac
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:42 am to SwampManiac
Can LSU really poke fun at anyone’s current hiring methods? 
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:45 am to tarzana
It’s almost like he couldn’t count on a Heisman quarterback to perform miracles
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:46 am to muricanman
somebody... is... butthurt.... na, na, na, ha that les didn't get it.... 
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:46 am to tarzana
quote:So firing a HC for regressing in 6 seasons from 11-2 to 4 straight 5 loss seasons is a screwed up move by aTm?
I don't know what happened later on but in typical Aggie fashion they screwed things up by firing him.
11-2
9-4
8-5
8-5
8-5
7-5
Was it a smart move by LSU?
11-2
13-1
10-3
10-3
8-5
9-3
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:54 am to jcole4lsu
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He was fired because he had an affair with a woman who worked in the sports admin office, ala bobby petrino. He was not fired for on-field performance.
At Arizona. He was fired by Michigan for losing and then was hired by Arizona
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:58 am to SwampManiac
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Sumlin at A&M: 51-26 - 66% winning record
Those are considered successful?
Post the records of the two coaches before him that coached in an easier conference. Sumlin isn't the greatest, but he attained a decent level of success there.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:36 pm to Big EZ Tiger
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Sumlin isn't the greatest, but he attained a decent level of success there.
For Arkansas or Arizona. But Texas A&M can do better. Take out the OOC scrub games and hes’s basically .500
I know everyone says they haven’t won a NC is 70 or whatever years and LSU fans love to make fun of them. But how many examples of teams that have struggled and gotten better do we need, aside from LSU? They may not win a NC but it’s foolish to completely rule it out and even if they don’t they can certainly do better than 8-4, 4-4
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:38 pm to SwampManiac
id give my left nut for sumlin or muschamp over what's currently occupying the lsu head coaches office
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:40 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:at least rich rod and sumlin have are better then O. That speaks of how lazy alleva was.
That's some lazy bullshite right there.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:52 pm to H-Town Tiger
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They may not win a NC but it’s foolish to completely rule it out and even if they don’t they can certainly do better than 8-4, 4-4
No doubt, but some people act like he was a bum who did nothing. When they were coming into the SEC, people on here thought they would get crushed. He transitioned them pretty well and they won at some of the tough places to play like Bama, Auburn and blew out OU in a bowl. It had run its course, but overall, he did decent there.
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:57 pm to jcole4lsu
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Rich Rod was not fired due to performance on the field though.
Yeah, OK.
Maybe not technically, but he would've been fired. The rules violations sped it up a bit. His three years there were horrible.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 1:05 pm to SwampManiac
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Sumlin at A&M: 51-26 - 66% winning record
Sumlin made improvements over Mike Sherman's tenure, therefore his stint should be viewed as successful.
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Muschamp at UF: 28-21 - 57% winning record
"As is what Muschamp is doing at USCe."
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Miles at LSU: 114-34 - 77% winning record
Fisher at FSU: 83-23 - 78% winning record
Yeah, of course they are
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 1/15/18 at 1:18 pm to SwampManiac
Sumlin's worst season at A&M was 8-5 (7-5 this year without bowl) competing in the SEC West while it was tougher than at any time in it's history. He also had a great deal of success at UH.
Out of all of the Arizona HC candidates, I'm guessing he had one of the strongest resumes.
Out of all of the Arizona HC candidates, I'm guessing he had one of the strongest resumes.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 1:20 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
Sumlin had many problems ...
he rode Mr Football for all he could
and frankly, he has (had) A&M going in the right direction, not just fast enough. I am sure there are other issues.
Sumlin left a nice group and will make Jimbo look good in his first year.
he rode Mr Football for all he could
and frankly, he has (had) A&M going in the right direction, not just fast enough. I am sure there are other issues.
Sumlin left a nice group and will make Jimbo look good in his first year.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 1:38 pm to Big EZ Tiger
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It had run its course, but overall, he did decent there.
Yeah i completely agree with that. Anyone that thinks Sumlin shouldn’t get another job is insane. Especially a place like Arizona as long as he does not have multiple losing seasons a record like he had at A&M would be fine and if he does well enough may get another shot at a big program.
With Muschamp I think Florida was too big for his first job. If he keeps winning at USCe he too Amy get another big program
Posted on 1/15/18 at 1:39 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Yeah, OK. Maybe not technically, but he would've been fired. The rules violations sped it up a bit. His three years there were horrible.
He means at Michigan not Arizona. The whole point was Arizona hired him AFTER he got fired
Posted on 1/15/18 at 1:45 pm to H-Town Tiger
No, technically he was not fired at Michigan for losing. He was accused of violating multiple NCAA rules.
He was losing big, though, so it was just a matter of time.
He was losing big, though, so it was just a matter of time.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 1:53 pm to justice
quote:Would've been a great compliment with Arranda's skills.
id give my left nut for sumlin
I don't care for the unskilled HC approach.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:15 pm to Mayhawman
There's a common denominator between the two, and it's Chavis. I respected Chavis when he first became a Tiger, but when he lost that 2012 game to Bama, he seemingly lost his mind as well. Look at A&M's defensive stats under the Chief.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:21 pm to SwampManiac
I mean they could be hiring position coaches instead...
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