re: Out of state tuition and room and board is about 50k per year

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And rightfully so when they get plenty of free shite and way more than players did in the early 2000’s.

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Do you think that just because players in the early 2000’s didn’t have all of these things that no players ever should? Players now produce way more money than players in the early 2000s did too.

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It’s not like they aren’t spending more money on the players now as it is with all the locker room upgrades, nutrition center with a private chef, mental health counseling, an expanded weight room that provides direct visual connection to the indoor field house, and sports medicine and hydrotherapy areas for recovery but that’s not enough.

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They are because they are making way more money than they used to. If schools don’t want to upgrade facilities and provide all of these additional services they don’t have to. Am I supposed to feel bad for the schools and athletic departments?

There’s 12 pages on this topic and I have yet to see a plan of how y’all would like to fix this massive NIL problem.

I highly doubt an LSU education if worth that much…maybe cost but not worth

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There’s 12 pages on this topic and I have yet to see a plan of how y’all would like to fix this massive NIL problem.

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My plan would involve the UFL becoming an actual minor league. They can get kids straight from HS. They can reap the profits of a small crowd and weak TV deal.

The NFL will never subsidize it though, not as long as the NCAA keeps letting this get out of hand.

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That would be up to a HS player that thinks he’s the shite.

Read about Spencer Haywood challenging the NBA age limit. He lost, but the NBA opened the door for hardship cases and eventually scouts were flooding HS gyms. Stern didn’t like that HS kids started seeing the NBA as their path to riches. For every Lebron, you had 10 guys like Ndudi Ebi.

So yeah…some kid should challenge the legality of the collective bargaining agreement establishing age limits if they want to fight the system.

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They can but why would they? They can go to college, get an education, and get paid.

My only plausible solution is for the NCAA to grow some balls and work with lawmakers to keep amateurism real.

Most athletes in college deserve a stipend, simple because they can’t have a job if they wanted. Secondly, make NIL be what it was supposed to be. The idea of a collective and pay for play is chickenshit.

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My only plausible solution is for the NCAA to grow some balls and work with lawmakers to keep amateurism real.

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They can keep amateurism within the sport, but they can’t limit what a person can earn on their own, which is what the NCAA used to do. If you think that athletes shouldn’t be able to earn their own money, then say that.

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Then explain what you want to do. I’ve asked several times what your solution to this massive problem is and you haven’t said anything.

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First a player shouldn’t get a dime of NIL until their first playing year has been completed and no NIL contract can be presented/signed until after that player has signed their LOI with said school. It should be all performance based. Also each university should have an NIL cap. Do those things and it will improve dramatically

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And rightfully so when they get plenty of free shite and way more than players did in the early 2000’s. It’s not like they aren’t spending more money on the players now as it is with all the locker room upgrades, nutrition center with a private chef, mental health counseling, an expanded weight room that provides direct visual connection to the indoor field house, and sports medicine and hydrotherapy areas for recovery but that’s not enough.

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At some point you have to ask yourself why the universities are spending all of this money, though. It’s not out of altruism. It’s because it pays to win.

It’s a pretty interesting phenomenon when you really dive into it, considering that athletic programs are non-profit endeavors. But the athletic programs sell a product - winning football. Their customers are the boosters, ticket holders, and TV networks; all of which are willing to pay for winning football. It’s why Scott Woodward makes more than William Tate. It’s why Brian Kelly makes more than Woodward and Tate combined. It’s why recruiting ability has been such a premium quality when evaluating coaching hires. It’s why we spend all of this money on facilities (largely to notice the best players to come here).

Once upon a time, the NCAA managed football TV contracts directly for the sake of minimizing the impacts on competition. Over 50 years ago, the NCAA foresaw that teams who were on TV more often would gain a financial advantage over other teams. They implemented a policy that barred teams from negotiating their own TV contracts, limited the number of TV appearances each team was allowed, and included revenue sharing from TV appearances.

In the 70’s, the major conferences felt their schools would be better off negotiating their own TV contracts and formed the CFA. The NCAA doubled down and said that if CFA members broke from NCAA policy in football, they would face sanctions in all sports. The idea was basically “you’re either on board with our principles, or you aren’t.” Oklahoma and UGA sued the NCAA on the grounds that the NCAA was restraining free trade, and won at the Supreme Court in 1984. The rest is history.

My point: The major conferences decided to turn football into a business, and we are finally seeing the consequences today.

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Right, that’s the whole point of this thread.

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I mean the whole point of the OP is “why do these kids need anything more than a scholarship”