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re: Our Bayou Tradition NIL payment options compared to Bama NIL payment options
Posted on 1/14/24 at 12:41 pm to LSURussian
Posted on 1/14/24 at 12:41 pm to LSURussian
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I just hope you won't be complaining on here when we lose a 5* recruit to another program possibly because their NIL offer was better for the athlete.
That’s a great point and nope, you won’t find that. It’s painful to say, but I’m close to IDGAF until/unless some standardized structure and restrictions are implemented.
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Posted on 1/14/24 at 12:46 pm to Tigertuxedo
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God forbid those kids get some money for entertaining you while they get CTE
I never said I was against what the original NIL concept was intended to be. My issue is with the obvious, ie shopping themselves, tampering, what now looks like unlimited transfers with no sits, etc. Who the freak thinks this is a good idea for CFB? It’s plumb whacked.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 1:22 pm to Eauxld Geauxld
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Thanks for the information. I was not familiar with this fund raising effort. I joined the Natty Club. It isn't a lot of money for LSU but if more from Tiger Rant join...
I joined as well
Posted on 1/14/24 at 1:30 pm to LSURussian
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Ain't that the truth.
Let's list the excuses:
1) The names for the tiers are dumb.
2) Can't designate which sport my money is dedicated for. (Not true.)
3) Season ticket holders don't get any free stuff.
4) The NIL tiers don't give out enough freebies, i.e., "I want an autographed shirt if I give money!!" (That's just sad...)
5) I don't like the NIL rules. They need to be changed before I give.
6) It's too expensive, need lower amounts for me to give. ($1.00 is too expensive??? )
7) I don't want my money going to an unproven athlete.
8) I don't want any of my money going to Livvy Dunne.
9) The big donors get all the free stuff. (Ironic.)
10) The NIL rules are going to change.
11) Players should be happy not getting paid, those greedy bastards!
12) I don't have to give, I graduated from LSU.
13) I have never paid to help bring in recruits before and I'm not going to do it now.
14) I don't think we need to recruit good players in order to win championships.
15) Nobody likes me.
16) Everybody hates me.
17) I'm going to eat some worms...
18) ETA: "I’ma sit back and watch this play out" -DeathByTossDive225
19) ETA: "Flawed man"- zztop1234
20) ETA: "I played college football and I refuse to ever pay for it!" - kjanchild
Did I leave any out?
How about this one:
How the frick do I know my donation is actually going to an athlete and not going to some connected dude's girlfriend who was setup with a cushy "secretary" job and Mercedes?
Where is the accounting of where the $$$ go? There is another thread where a poster asked questions and he is sending an email.
Basic info as to how much $$$ go to overhead and how much goes to athletes should not be hard to find.
ETA: Why in the hell are there no names of the people involved on the website? Just a bunch of Rah-Rah and no substance of who's running the show and where the money is actually going.
This post was edited on 1/14/24 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 1/14/24 at 1:41 pm to SpartanSoul
Shoot them an email. Idk why you’re bitching to us about it.
nattyclub@bayoutraditionscollective.com
nattyclub@bayoutraditionscollective.com
Posted on 1/14/24 at 1:55 pm to GeorgeReymond
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Shoot them an email. Idk why you’re bitching to us about it.
nattyclub@bayoutraditionscollective.com
I see the point of my post has eluded your grasp so I will try once more.
If an organization is trying to get people to give their money to them, they need to reassure/explain how this money will be used. They also need to show proof that they have indeed spent the money in the manner promised.
It would also be wise to let people know about the people in charge and running things so people can be reassured that the organization is well run.
To hide this information or make it difficult to access does not reflect well on the organization. It will lead to potential donors to question if the organization is hiding something or just poorly run.
The burden for this is on the organization, expecting potential donors to write emails or have to jump through hoops for basic information will always lead to less donations.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 1:56 pm to SpartanSoul
I mean, you saw the list right? Never seen that many strawmen in one post, almost impressive.
It’s only natural that people will bring up and discuss the glaring problems with NIL and the league, speculate about the future, ask for details, ask legal questions, etc. when the collective is brought up.
Chicken chimes in with the simple, “well there’s revenue that could and should be used to pay players”. I don’t see anyone arguing with him.
I understand there’s no immediate way around this under the NCAA/law as-is, but the fact remains our head coach gets paid $10M/year & people are on soapboxes begging you to donate to the poor disenfranchised D1 athletes. Are you kidding me?
Super reductive lizard-brain response to say, “if you’re not investing in this, you’re a shite fan”.
Maybe I am.
Or maybe, you’re a sucker.
I know this will get downvoted to hell, I don’t normally play the heel here… but that’s just the truth of the matter. NIL/CFB have a lot of ground to make up before I just throw dollars at it.
It’s only natural that people will bring up and discuss the glaring problems with NIL and the league, speculate about the future, ask for details, ask legal questions, etc. when the collective is brought up.
Chicken chimes in with the simple, “well there’s revenue that could and should be used to pay players”. I don’t see anyone arguing with him.
I understand there’s no immediate way around this under the NCAA/law as-is, but the fact remains our head coach gets paid $10M/year & people are on soapboxes begging you to donate to the poor disenfranchised D1 athletes. Are you kidding me?
Super reductive lizard-brain response to say, “if you’re not investing in this, you’re a shite fan”.
Maybe I am.
Or maybe, you’re a sucker.
I know this will get downvoted to hell, I don’t normally play the heel here… but that’s just the truth of the matter. NIL/CFB have a lot of ground to make up before I just throw dollars at it.
This post was edited on 1/14/24 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:00 pm to SpartanSoul
I promise you it hasn’t. These are recommendations you should be giving them, not us.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:05 pm to GeorgeReymond
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I promise you it hasn’t. These are recommendations you should be giving them, not us.
I did actually send an email when they first launched. I never received a response. I don't know if they just didn't want to answer, or the email was lost in the starting everything up.
I'm not going to beg them. The info should be front and center on the website. Instead of having substance, the website is a bunch of rah-rah to get some emotional reaction.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:25 pm to GumboPot
Bayou Traditions being at sporting events and soliciting donations and subscribers is an interesting thought
But we all know LSU fans. This board would be lit up with "LSU, those greedy $%#$%, charging crazy prices for tickets, parking and crappy concessions, and now they're begging for more money? Screw 'em!"
You know that's exactly how it would go on this board.
But we all know LSU fans. This board would be lit up with "LSU, those greedy $%#$%, charging crazy prices for tickets, parking and crappy concessions, and now they're begging for more money? Screw 'em!"
You know that's exactly how it would go on this board.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:28 pm to zztop1234
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Lol if you think this is smart, than you do you.
It's hilarious that you defend this as being logical.
You would fine an excuse to not donate no matter what, so quit telling fibs,
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:34 pm to Toadfrggy82
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You would fine an excuse to not donate no matter what
A donation is a gift. CFB is profitable. Why does anyone need an excuse?
And just think, this is tRant. Try walking around a football or basketball game asking random students & people with kids if they donate to support annual bidding wars on student athletes. Many will laugh in your face.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:41 pm to PlaySomeHonk
So, who used to receive all this money the players are now getting paid?
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:55 pm to Toadfrggy82
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who used to receive all this money the players are now getting paid?
Hard to answer with the lack of transparency but most likely athletic departments (so facilities, staff, coaches)
Posted on 1/14/24 at 3:02 pm to Toadfrggy82
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You would fine an excuse to not donate no matter what, so quit telling fibs,
Please let us know who exactly decides how to spend your contribution and what percentage of your contribution to Bayou Traditions went to the following:
An athlete at LSU
An administrator/employee's salary
Ruth's Chris Steakhouse
Mercedes-Benz of Baton Rouge
Any travel to Hawaii in search of a hot NIL prospect
Any other disbursement that you are aware of
Without these answers a contribution is just like giving blindly giving to one of the commercials on TV that appeal to your heart with a starving kid or hurt animal. That is exactly what the website does, appeal to "tradition" but is woefully lacking on any information that matters. For only pennies a day you can help us win a Natty(Just trust us Bro!!).
I can hear In the Arms of an Angel playing in the background.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 3:17 pm to SpartanSoul
quote:You don't. But since the BT Collective is in partnership with LSU's athletic department, including being supported by Scott Woodward, that gives me enough confidence in the process to donate.
How about this one:
How the frick do I know my donation is actually going to an athlete and not going to some connected dude's girlfriend who was setup with a cushy "secretary" job and Mercedes?
If it doesn't give you that confidence then that's your prerogative to not donate.
quote:It's been well publicized since January of last year that the head of the BT organization is Bayou Traditions' president Brent Cunningham, who came to LSU's Bayou Tradition Collective after being affiliated with TCU's NIL program, and that the initial big donors behind BT include Todd Graves (Raising Canes), Gordon McKernan and Mapp Construction (CEO is Mike Polito: Who is Mike Polito?), and Taylor Jacobs, Associate Athletic Director and the head of LSU’s NIL department who previously worked for eight years as the Compliance Coordinator for LSU Athletics. ( Taylor Jacobs bio on LSUSports.net).
Why in the hell are there no names of the people involved on the website? Just a bunch of Rah-Rah and no substance of who's running the show
I understand if you don't want to support LSU's official NIL initiative. That's your right and solely your decision.
But to come up with all these faux excuses why you're not going to donate just makes you look silly.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 3:31 pm to LSURussian
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You don't. But since the BT Collective is in partnership with LSU's athletic department, including being supported by Scott Woodward, that gives me enough confidence in the process to donate.
Of course, there has never been any underhanded shite happen in the LSU Athletic Dept. It's not like they could have someone do underhanded shite like steal from a children's hospital fund or some crazy shite. I'm sure all is above board over at Bama too.
Nah I'm going to need some specifics.
quote:
It's been well publicized since January of last year that the head of the BT organization is Bayou Traditions' president Brent Cunningham, who came to LSU's Bayou Tradition Collective after being affiliated with TCU's NIL program, and that the initial big donors behind BT include Todd Graves (Raising Canes), Gordon McKernan and Mapp Construction (CEO is Mike Polito: Who is Mike Polito?), and Taylor Jacobs, Associate Athletic Director and the head of LSU’s NIL department who previously worked for eight years as the Compliance Coordinator for LSU Athletics. ( Taylor Jacobs bio on LSUSports.net)
Thanks for the info, why don't they have this on the actual website and who else in involved?
How is the money spent? How much to athletes vs. overhead? Who decides how the money is spent? Is it Cunningham, a panel, Magic Eightball?
quote:
I understand if you don't want to support LSU's official NIL initiative. That's your right and solely your decision.
But to come up with all these faux excuses why you're not going to donate just makes you look silly.
Faux excuses?? Nah you just sound like a little girl that thinks her favorite boy band can do no wrong.
No transparency/accountability no donation.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 4:00 pm to SpartanSoul
quote:No one in the LSU Athletic Department did that.
any underhanded shite happen in the LSU Athletic Dept. It's not like they could have someone do underhanded shite like steal from a children's hospital fund
This is just another example of your weak excuses. quote:Because they want to give people like you a reason to bitch. It worked.
why don't they have this on the actual website and who else in involved?
quote:If you're worried your $5 donation will be misused, I suggest you continue to keep your money.
How is the money spent? How much to athletes vs. overhead?
I donate annually to dozens of non-profits and I don't fret over how every penny is spent by them. I rely on their reputation and their results as my incentive to give.
With the Bayou Tradition Collective, I'm relying on my faith in LSU to partner with a trustworthy entity to promote our NIL process. It's in the Athletic Department's best interest to see that NIL is handled above board and gets results. If that doesn't happen, then people will lose their jobs, as they should.
But, once again, your excuse to not donate is duly noted...
quote:
Nah you just sound like a little girl that thinks her favorite boy band can do no wrong.
quote:I'm sure LSU's NIL effort will manage somehow without your $5...
No transparency/accountability no donation.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 4:04 pm to LSURussian
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I'm sure LSU's NIL effort will manage somehow without your $5...
Good then stop bitching at everyone who doesn’t care to give money away.
You sound like you work at a gas station.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 4:06 pm to LSURussian
Oh Lord, you know what the children's hospital jab was referring too.
And I was only contemplating $1, I'm not a high roller like you.
They will have to do without my $$$ until there is transparency/accountability. But the good thing is you can flex on the internet and feel special.
Be sure to downvote to show the world how important you are!!
ETA: I was going to fix my typo but I'll leave it for you to find and feel special.
And I was only contemplating $1, I'm not a high roller like you.
They will have to do without my $$$ until there is transparency/accountability. But the good thing is you can flex on the internet and feel special.
Be sure to downvote to show the world how important you are!!
ETA: I was going to fix my typo but I'll leave it for you to find and feel special.
This post was edited on 1/14/24 at 4:14 pm
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