re: Orgeron's trajectory since Ole Miss is super positive

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You can not name one coach that started off as bad as O and went on to win an NC.

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Coach O’s career actually didn’t start out all that bad as you haters like to intentionally present it way out of context to intentionally demonize him and his coaching record. Nonetheless, the Ole Miss administration for three years had been trying to get Coach Cutcliffe to improve on his recruiting so the inevitable wouldn’t eventually happen, but Coach Cutcliffe didn’t improve on his recruiting and then the inevitable did eventually happen.

Now, most coaches that have been at a university for quite a while and that also have a winning record like Coach Cutcliffe usually don’t get fired after just one losing season. However, in the case of Coach Cutcliffe, because the Ole Miss administration had been trying to get him to improve his recruiting for a while, they fired him anyway and cited poor recruiting as the primary reason. Indeed, coaches who can’t recruit, also can’t rebuild teams.

So, the Ole Miss administration hired Coach O to rebuild the Ole Miss football program and gave him a four deal. Meanwhile, Coach O inherited all those piss poor players that had been recruited by Coach Cutcliffe and like Coach Cutcliffe, Coach O couldn’t win with those piss poor players either. In fact, no one could win with those horrible players in the SEC.

However, it wasn’t all bad for Coach O, as his recruiting was very excellent, but you will never hear that from a Coach O hater. Anyway, because Coach O couldn’t win enough with those horrible players that he inherited and that had been recruited by Coach Cutcliffe and who no one could win with, he was fired at the end of his third year of a four deal, even though Ole Miss had promised to keep him on for the full four years of his contract.

Anyway, Coach Houston Nutt gets hired to take Coach O’s place, and when Coach Houston Nutt comes in, he wins immediately and for three years straight with the players that Coach O had personally recruited and brought to Ole Miss. Then as soon as those Coach O’s players graduate or are no longer eligible after three years like someone flipped a switch, suddenly Coach Nutt couldn’t win with his own players and then he too ended up being fired at Ole Miss’s revolving coaching situation.

Nonetheless, it is very obvious that had Coach O been given his fourth and final year of his contract, as he had been promised, that Coach O would have started winning at that point with those very excellent players that he had personally recruited and brought to Ole Miss, and in all probability Coach O would still be the Ole Miss head coach to this day.

However, the Coach O haters don’t want anyone else to know that because they hate Coach O with a passion and want very badly for him to fail. That’s why they say his tenure at Ole Miss was a total, complete, and utter debacle, when it wasn’t at all.

Look, Charlie Strong did the same kind of deal with the University of Texas and he too ended up getting the short end of the stick because he was fired like Coach O after only three years because he too couldn’t win with former coach Mack Brown’s mediocre players. The motto of the story is if you do a 4-year deal to rebuild a team, make sure it is a guaranteed contract so that they can’t fire you at the end of just three years like they did to Coach O and to coach Charlie Strong. Because if you don’t, the likelihood is the university administration will get cold feet after being pressured by the fans and fire you after only three years, and that will be a very significant hit to your coaching career.

Indeed, it’s not all Coach O’s fault his record at first glance at Ole Miss seems so damn bad. It’s the Ole Miss administration’s fault more than it is anything else because they pulled the rug out from under him before his contract was up and created the situation. However, you will never hear the truth if you listen to all the Coach O haters and detractors out here on the rant.

Indeed, Coach O's Ole Miss record is more the university's fault than it is Coach O's fault. How many times have you heard that before? Never. While the obsessed Coach O haters and detractors here are a perfect collection of the dumbest ranters that post on the rant and the biggest Coach Miles butt lickers in the world.

So, in other words, you are just a low-information O hater. Okay, no big deal to me.

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Coach O's career didn't start out all that bad

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You're right. He won his first game as the Old Miss coach against mighty Memphis.

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However, it wasn't all bad for Coach O

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Don't sugarcoat it, it was ALL bad.

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Anyway, Coach Houston Nutt gets hired to take Coach O's place, and when Coach Houston Nutt comes in, he wins immediately and for three years straight with the players that Coach O had personally recruited and brought to Old Miss.

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Houston Nutt should have given Orgeron a percentage of his salary since Nutt didn't have to coach any of those players that Orgeron recruited.

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it was very obvious that had Coach O been given his fourth and final year of his contract, Coach O would have started winning at that point

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Yeah, the fourth year is always the magical year.

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Indeed, it's not all Coach O's fault his record at first glance at Old Miss seems so damn bad

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Of course not. it's the universe's fault, bad karma, bad ju-ju, Couldn't possibly be the head coach's fault.

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Indeed, Coach O's Old Miss record is more the universities fault then it is Coach O's fault.

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Your post was creative writing at it's finest.

Wipe your face off moonbat, you got butt-cheese all over it.

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Space Cowboy

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Is this 1930s Germany? Im telling ya folks, if you were looking for fat goebbels, he's right here.

O didn't do well at Ole Miss if hedve won 5 or 6 games per year there would be a little argument because yes he was hired into a miserable situation and a program in disarray. But he didn't he failed historically and at least he owns up to it and recognizes the reasons why he did. He is def being unfairly bashed and had ridiculous expectations thrown on him by the Miles crowd. Miles inherited over 30 pros, the numbers 1,3, 5 and 6th picks in the NFL draft plus 3 other 1st rounders, 2 NFL QBs, 5 pro bowlers and 2 all pro players. O doesn't have anywhere near that on this roster so saying its a must for him to lose 1 game or less and have the exact same success Miles did his first 3 seasons is unrealistic. Is it possible, sure but saying he needs to be fired after 1 season if he doesn't is simply bias. It may take a cycle of players to find out if he's a boom or a bust.

O's career record as a head coach ( acting or perm) will be above .500 at the end of the 2017 year, with a very positive trend line. To use a metaphor, his stock is rising.

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Space Cowboy

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Please be trolling. Otherwise, I feel bad for you.

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But he didn't he failed historically and at least he owns up to it and recognizes the reasons why he did.

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I agree, O has admitted his faults many times, but for some reason this guy doesn't want to accept that.

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is def being unfairly bashed and had ridiculous expectations thrown on him by the Miles crowd.

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No no no.. O supporters are lowering expectations for him, while we're just holding him to the same standard Miles was held to.

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Maybe. Considering apparently people around here would have preferred Larry Fedora or Mike Gundy and those guys routinely go 9-3.

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How about roll the dice on Dave Aranda instead?

Actually less of a risk than the one we took