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lsu2006
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re: Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
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Goldrush25
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Space Cowboy


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I think you'd agree Ogeron deserves a lot of blame for what's happened this season


The guy you're responding to would not agree. I have never seen him criticize Orgeron for anything. If he'd make it a little less obvious that he's a bought and paid for flunky he'd be taken more seriously.
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Madking
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re: Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
I know it's easy for you people to lie that's 90% of what you do so it must be easy. It's definitely easier than having a valid point because you never go that route.


Madking
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Member since Apr 2016
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re: Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
Well he deserves the lions share of the blame for this season. His meddling in Canada's offense and buckling under pressure from the most ignorant fanbase in the country are cardinal sins. Him lying and following Miles mistakes after watching Miles be fired for doing exactly that then refusing to change enough even after Troy leads me to believe he won't change but blaming the upperclass lack of talent in the Oline on Ogeron is about as stupid as can be.


Lonnie4LSU
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re: Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
When Nick showed up at LSU I don’t believe he was considered a top notch coach. When Miles showed up at LSU, I don’t believe he was considered a top notch coach either. They both seemed to do pretty well for LSU and for themselves.

What they both did have going for them was that they had both taken over down football programs and elevated them.

The amusing part of all of this and sad as well, is the idea that came out that if we couldn’t get two hot commodity coaches, we might as well with a guy who had failed miserably in his only other head coaching gig.


Mo Jeaux
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I know it's easy for you people to lie that's 90% of what you do so it must be easy. It's definitely easier than having a valid point because you never go that route.



What have I said about O that is a lie?


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Mo Jeaux
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When Nick showed up at LSU I don’t believe he was considered a top notch coach.


This isn't true.

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When Miles showed up at LSU, I don’t believe he was considered a top notch coach either.


This isn't really true either. Certainly less so than Saban, but only by a difference of degree.


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Rickdaddy4188
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Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation


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Rickdaddy4188
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Member since Aug 2011
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This just isn't true. There was a lot of talk about the thin OL in the preseaso





yeah against the good teams on the schedule. not a sec bottom dweller and a team with ZERO TOP 95 classes since 2014.
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Rickdaddy4188
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Member since Aug 2011
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Another one of you guys false narratives, the oline issue has been a major issue going on 3 seasons now. To say people only started taking about it post Troy is a flat out lie.


our oline was one of the best in cfb in 2014, 2015, and 2016.



The Cool No 9
New Orleans Saints Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
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re: Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
Naturally. The man doesn’t know bull ish about offense


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Madking
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Member since Apr 2016
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re: Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
No it wasn't, per adjusted metrics last season our oline ranked 47th in the country. That ranking is adjusted so I wouldn't say they were the 47th ranked line overall they were better than that but they definitely weren't one of the best lines in the country.
Here are their rankings for rushing
Adjusted line yards - 5th
Standard down ypc - 38th
Passing down ypc - 26th
Opportunity rate - 29th
Power success rate - 89th
Stuff rate - 63rd
Passing stats
Adjusted sack rate - 44th
Standard down sack rate - 59th
Passing down sack rate - 72nd
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BTigerFan
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Member since Dec 2004
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most ignorant fanbase in the country


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Madking


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LSU Fan


Makes sense


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doubleb
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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re: Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
Was O not allowed to sign JC or transfer QBs and OL in February?


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dgnx6
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Member since Feb 2006
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Returning from a crew that couldn’t open holes for Fournette......


Oh so you mean the guy the current head coach played injured? Just like he's playing guice injured?

Or is Ed just lying his arse off?


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sheek
Houston Astros Fan
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2007
40229 posts

re: Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
I thought O was supposed the let his coordinators coach, but based on several accounts that hasn't been the case particularly with the offense. I mean there was an altercation last week on the practice field between O and his OC. Combine that with what Chris landry has been reporting on it seems like the politician is micromanaging instead of doing what he told fans and the media when he was introduced as the head coach.

Grimes has to go and people can spin it the way they want but the fact remains O lost 3 OL on his watch. I get the other depth issues are a direct result of a variety of things that occurred before he took the position. With that being said, O should do what he said he was going to do and not be the prototypical lying politician. If I wanted an offensive meddler I would just say keep Les.
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SammyTiger
LSU Fan
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Member since Feb 2009
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re: Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
He says we need JUCOs but we got 0 last class and like 8 left the team.

So you can't have your cake and eat it too.


sheek
Houston Astros Fan
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2007
40229 posts

re: Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
Also O said he wanted to load up the OL next year with Jucos. That's concerning.


dgnx6
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
31518 posts

re: Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
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change but blaming the upperclass lack of talent in the Oline on Ogeron is about as stupid as can be.


Did you blame Les for the lack of upperclassmen oline in 08 and 09? Because that was on Saban.

Did you blame Les when he moved 3 dlinemen to play oline because of said lack of depth?



rbdallas
LSU Fan
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Member since Nov 2007
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Maybe, but Orgeron needs to go.


back to the same old crap.


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