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re: Orgeron did better in his first season than Saban did in his 3rd?

Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:42 pm to
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:42 pm to
Before it was any idiot could win 10 games with the talent Miles worked with


O is hired, then a few month's later its, "this is a complete rebuild, Les Miles left this program with no talent"

But what's funny is all week we have seen threads about how LSU leads the nation in players who enter the draft early.

MAKE UP YOUR MINDS PEOPLE
This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 10:44 pm
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Savannah, GA
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:43 pm to
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why is that? Here at LSU it appears that Orgeron was a better coach in his very first (9-4) season here at LSU than Saban was in his 3rd (8-5) season at LSU


You cannot seriously be comparing the two situations. Are you drunk? Miles goes 34-6 first 3 years here so he must be a better coach than Saban by that logic, which is not the case. If you hate anti O threads don't start a dumb uninformed discussion to try to pump up O.
This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 10:44 pm
Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
16199 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:43 pm to
Im saying that any time an idiot like you draws any comparison between one of the greatest college football minds ever (if not the greatest) and Orgeron your argument is instantly going to be regarded as foolishness. Which it is. Foolishness.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:44 pm to
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This is EXACTLY what’s going on. The insanity has become complete.


I could care less about Orgeron actually other than that he is currently LSU's HC which now makes me a fan of his. For some weird reason I like to see the LSU HC be successful. And a double go tigers to you
Posted by LSUMIKEV
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:45 pm to
Boxcar Saban was still stuck with Dinardos players in his 3rd
Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:45 pm to
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Miles goes 34-6 first 3 years here so he must be a better coach than Saban by that logic, which is not the case.


I think he tried to say he was Larry Coker for that, actually. I think he's saying Miles is Coker for winning with Sabans talent and O is greater then Saban for winning with Mile's talent. I think.

Actually I think he's just an idiot stirring shite.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:45 pm to
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so now you (by you I mean not necessarily you) are saying that strength of schedule matters? Remember that this coming season


Making excuses already.

If he’s better than Saban as you stated in this thread, he should be able to sin the SECw regardless of SOS. Right??

So why make the hard schedule excuse before the season even starts?
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:46 pm to
I'm so sick of fans with tunnel vision.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
70762 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:46 pm to
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LSUMIKEV


Wanna go on record and tell us what will be a successful year to you?
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
103407 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:47 pm to
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so now you (by you I mean not necessarily you) are saying that strength of schedule matters? Remember that this coming season.

The schedule always matters. The point is that this last season is the easiest schedule LSU has seen since I can remember. The SEC hasn't been this down in quite some time.

Basically, the argument your presenting is putting O down because basically your saying that O and Saban finished the race with the exact same time, but O had a much faster car.
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he was in his third season at LSU. You saying Saban can't coach up his players?

Saban had to build the program to that level. Orgeron was handed it at a level above what Saban had built it up to in his 3rd year.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:47 pm to
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I could care less about Orgeron actually other than that he is currently LSU's HC which now makes me a fan of his


So by this logic Curley Hallman should never have been fired.

You guys have to be just fricking with us.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22797 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:47 pm to
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I could care less about Orgeron


How much less could you care?
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For some weird reason I like to see the LSU HC be successful


Everybody here wants to see the LSU HC be successful, which is why most didn’t want Ed Orgeron to be our HC. He has proven that he is incapable of running a successful program.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:48 pm to
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Hey I am just presenting facts here. If you don't like facts and still want to believe in the easter bunny and santa claus that's your prerogative. The rest of us have grown up.



I suppose this is your lame attempt at humor, but I’m going to go ahead and accept that you are right. I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT!!!

Ed Orgeron is better than Nick Saban based on his first full year as HC!!!! Thank you for opening my eyes!!!!


Quick question: How does Eatin Ed stack up to old Nick if we look at his fourth year? Why does our evaluation and comparison stop at his third year?


Also, at what point do we predict Eatin Ed will be better than Les Miles??

Because it’s clear from their first years here Miles is on another level.



This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 10:58 pm
Posted by RxHunter
West Monroe
Member since Sep 2016
284 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:49 pm to
Wow. Derek must think that he has a chance to be the new AD and posted this stuff. Who in their right mind thinks O is a better coach than Saban. Wow just wow!
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
161680 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:50 pm to
I will never understand the amount of slack given to a guy with O's resume as some of these people do
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
70762 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:51 pm to
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Wow. Derek must think that he has a chance to be the new AD and posted this stuff. Who in their right mind thinks O is a better coach than Saban. Wow just wow!



he isn't even on Miles level, its a damn insult that both are even in the same sentence

I wanted Miles gone at the end but O can't hold a candle stick to what Les Miles accomplished
This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 10:56 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60665 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:51 pm to
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he was in his third season at LSU. You saying Saban can't coach up his players?


Non your absolutely right. I never realized this before. I was too busy looking at context. Considering things like the 2001 recruiting class was the best I’d seen LSU sign in my life at that point, locking down the stat like we’d really never seen. Too caught up in make our first trip to the the SECCG and winning our first SEC title in 13 years and the 2003 class which was as good as the 2001 class. That by going 5-3 3 straight years we had winning records in the SEC 3 straight years for the first time since the mid 80s. I should have realized none of that matter, just the fact we went 8-5. Thanks for making me see the light and realizing Saban wasn’t that great here. Though now I’m really depressed because it’s now obvious to me that when Saban leaves Bama they will hire O away and he’ll win even more championships there then Saban has
Posted by LSUMIKEV
Member since Sep 2017
784 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:52 pm to
ok so the pundits say we go 6-6 I say we go at least 9-3 or 10-2 however and we will beat BAMA at home
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
161680 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:53 pm to
O can't hold a candlestick to what Miles accomplished at Ok St much less LSU
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
70762 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:53 pm to
We have people who think all coaches deserve the same leash and that shouldn't happen

Coach O does not deserve the benefit of the doubt because he is a proven failure at running a major program. People just want to excuse his short comings to try to justify everything
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