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Freauxzen
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Member since Feb 2006
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re: Orgeron cared more about his buyout than his salary. - Mike Detillier
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he wanted a significant buyout due to lessons he learned at USC.


The problem isn't even giving him the buyout....


It's the rational in the first place. How is that even logical?

"You should secure my payment because I learned good at USC."

Has anyone ever negotiated a salary based on "I learned some lessons,"?


Dizz
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re: Orgeron cared more about his buyout than his salary. - Mike Detillier
To play devils advocate it’s reasonable for O to be worried about the buy out. He knew at the first stumble people would be calling for his job. The buyout gives him job security.

Smart on O’s part to be worried about a buy out dumb on Alleva’s part to let him have it.



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adamb2151
LSU Fan
Houston, Texas
Member since Jun 2013
3282 posts

re: Orgeron cared more about his buyout than his salary. - Mike Detillier
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"You should secure my payment because I learned good at USC."


I think what he meant was that Orgeron learned to negotiate a buyout from his experiences at USC. I guess USC did not give him a 12 mill buyout?


Godfather1
Army Fan
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Member since Oct 2006
47523 posts

re: Orgeron cared more about his buyout than his salary. - Mike Detillier
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why didn't alleva get upset with him and move on over it...


Because Joe had to make a big splash and hurry up and announce a coach before Texas could.

Boy, I guess he really showed that Tom Herman guy, huh?


PUB
Member since Sep 2017
881 posts

re: Orgeron cared more about his buyout than his salary. - Mike Detillier
Already set up for life. LSU got SCAMMED AGAIN because of ALLEVA.


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OvertheDwayneBowe
Member since Sep 2016
340 posts

re: Orgeron cared more about his buyout than his salary. - Mike Detillier
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Because Joe had to make a big splash and hurry up and announce a coach before Texas could.

Boy, I guess he really showed that Tom Herman guy, huh?



This is it right here. LSU had leverage. Alleva did not.

Orgeron and his agent knew that Alleva was trying to rush to a deal to beat Texas to the punch.


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Godfather1
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Member since Oct 2006
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re: Orgeron cared more about his buyout than his salary. - Mike Detillier
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Making sure he's set up for life, after getting run out of here.


fricker knew coming in this was going to be his last stop.


Tunasntigers92
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re: Orgeron cared more about his buyout than his salary. - Mike Detillier
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fricker knew coming in this was going to be his last stop


Yep, basically knew he was in over his head going into it.


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sjmabry
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Texas
Member since Aug 2013
14317 posts

re: Orgeron cared more about his buyout than his salary. - Mike Detillier
Yep, this will be his last stop. Too bad he’s taking LSU down.


1999
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re: Orgeron cared more about his buyout than his salary. - Mike Detillier
Lol alleva is a total moron. He had all the leverage.


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KG5989
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re: Orgeron cared more about his buyout than his salary. - Mike Detillier
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I guess USC did not give him a 12 mill buyout?


Considering that USC didn’t even hire him as their head coach, I’m not sure what lessons he could have learned there.


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Tunasntigers92
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re: Orgeron cared more about his buyout than his salary. - Mike Detillier
Maybe he'll coach at Mandeville high after this.


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AshLSU
LSU Fan
Member since Nov 2015
7090 posts

re: Orgeron cared more about his buyout than his salary. - Mike Detillier
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So he knew up front that everyone would want him gone early?


He knew up front that he was a shitty coach and would fail at tgis


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BigBrod81
LSU Fan
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
6887 posts

re: Orgeron cared more about his buyout than his salary. - Mike Detillier
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Detillier stated Orgeron did not care what his salary was but he wanted a significant buyout due to lessons he learned at USC. Detillier also implied that Orgeron worked over Alleva in the contract negotiations. 


Now 0 can stay fly for life with a fresh pair of Dulac Nikes for everyday of the week until he dies. He's gonna be the freshest baw on da bayou nah! Ain't dat right T-Derek? Luke at dem souls baw! Ain't dem dey clean?!

Image: http://assets.academy.com/mgen/62/10633062.jpg


This post was edited on 10/5 at 5:37 pm


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TH03
Iowa State Fan
Dallas
Member since Dec 2008
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re: Orgeron cared more about his buyout than his salary. - Mike Detillier
Of course he did. He knows he sucks and would be on the hot seat.

I'm convinced he's trying to get fired because it's easier that actually being a good coach. .


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LSUEnvy
LSU Fan
Hou via Lake Chuck
Member since May 2011
8490 posts

re: Orgeron cared more about his buyout than his salary. - Mike Detillier
Alleva DGAF he's making $725K/yr and he's 65 yr old.


wildtigercat93
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Member since Jul 2011
74872 posts

re: Orgeron cared more about his buyout than his salary. - Mike Detillier
Remember when Alleva wouldn't negotiate with Fischer or Herman because they wanted to hire someone who wanted to be here and not someone who wanted to make a lot of money and negotiate?

If Alleva was as willing to give the first two what they wanted as he was willing to give O with zero fricking leverage then maybe we would have a top flight coach right now.

Good lord fire both of these arse clowns


Salamander_Wilson
Member since Jul 2015
2475 posts

re: Orgeron cared more about his buyout than his salary. - Mike Detillier
The more I think of this buyout issue, the more angry I become.

I swear, it seems unbelievable.

I pride myself on being civil, but something tells me if I ever met Alleva I'd call him a moron to his face.


wildtigercat93
LSU Fan
Member since Jul 2011
74872 posts

re: Orgeron cared more about his buyout than his salary. - Mike Detillier
Imagine the conversation


"Hey yah baw were not rebuilding were gonna win championships! Just gonna fix some mistakes Miles was making!!"

"Okay let's talk numbers. I'll give you 3.5 mill and a normal buyout, let's say 4 million."


"Hold up now yaw yaw. I need some insurance like Miles got. In case you unprecedently fire me in the first year. Dats worth 12 million dollars baw"

"But you just said we aren't rebuilding, and you said you love this university and would never leave, why would you need insurance of us firing you given the expectations you put into the binder"


"I'm glad you brought up the binder baw. Turn to page 14 and it clearly states that in case something does go wrong next year, it ain't my fault because the players suck because it's Miles fault. It's foolproof"

"Holy shite I didn't think about that O. I'll give you 12 million! You're a genius!"


*coach O mumbles inaudibly under his breath*

"Dat was easier than I thought."


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Havoc
LSU Fan
Member since Nov 2015
3147 posts

re: Orgeron cared more about his buyout than his salary. - Mike Detillier
Or maybe he wanted to make sure he got a fair chance to do the job?



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