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re: Orgeron - We have the leader and the most team depth ever, but we have to beat Alabama
Posted on 7/3/19 at 7:04 am to SouthdownsTiger4178
Posted on 7/3/19 at 7:04 am to SouthdownsTiger4178
What? We certainly have a team that on the back end of the schedule is able to compete for victory.
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Posted on 7/3/19 at 7:43 am to SouthdownsTiger4178
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Here is where O is different from Miles.
Not trying to blow smoke up the fanbases/ arse.
What??
Are you trying to say Miles didn’t acknowledge the importance of beating Alabama??
If anything Miles placed too much emphasis on that game. He and Saban were the ones that made it a rivalry because at that point we were at least still competitive with them.
O is 0-3 averaging just over a FG against them a game
This post was edited on 7/3/19 at 7:45 am
Posted on 7/3/19 at 8:13 am to TrueTigerTale
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Orgeron pointed to the one major challenge that he needs to overcome this season as LSU's head coach, "we have to beat Alabama." Could not have stated it any better Coach O.
I disagree. This is exactly the wrong focus. The team needs to take each game one at a time and do everything it can to play dominant and flawless football. They need to achieve excellence and consistency. It would actually make me more upset if the team beats Bama but drops 3 other games and plays in the Citrus Bowl. I would be happier if the only loss was to Bama and we finish in the top 5, either being the fourth seed in the playoffs or the top see in the NY6.
Stop thinking beating Bama is the goal. Excellence, consistency, dominance - every week - those are the goals.
Posted on 7/3/19 at 8:52 am to SouthdownsTiger4178
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Here is where O is different from Miles.
Not trying to blow smoke up the fanbases/ arse.
What?
If O does anything better than any coach in America, that thing is empty platitudes, coach speak, build hype in pointless phrases, his fake fired-upness, etc.
Posted on 7/3/19 at 8:54 am to SouthdownsTiger4178
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Not trying to blow smoke up the fanbases/ arse.
Like saying he is going to hire the best coordinators available, then hiring E?
Like saying they're going to immediately compete for a championship, then seeding talk of a "rebuild"?
Posted on 7/3/19 at 8:56 am to Manswers
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Stop thinking beating Bama is the goal. Excellence, consistency, dominance - every week - those are the goals.
Agreed. The coach should instill the mentality in his team that no matter who is on the other sideline, they will crush them and win. The fixation on Alabama by O, as evidenced by his many comments specifically naming the school, shows how much of a mental block he has for the game. Not a good sign.
Posted on 7/3/19 at 9:53 am to Damone
I could not disagree more, Alabama is the measuring stick for any LSU football coach, having a mental block would be ignoring the fact that while winning New Years Bowl games, you ignore the problem that LSU can not compete against the best, Alabama!
After winning a New Years Bowl game, Coach O is addressing the Alabama problem head on and not glossing over it. That’s is being aggressive, not a wimp.
After winning a New Years Bowl game, Coach O is addressing the Alabama problem head on and not glossing over it. That’s is being aggressive, not a wimp.
This post was edited on 7/3/19 at 11:48 am
Posted on 7/3/19 at 10:01 am to bencoleman
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bencoleman
It seems like your sole purpose was to come into this thread and derail it. Why can't you comment on the topic instead of taking shots at other posters?
Posted on 7/3/19 at 10:14 am to Ghost of Huey P
Wrong
Posted on 7/3/19 at 10:30 am to TDsngumbo
quote:agreed and I think the fact that Oregeron is basically saying that the season won't be sucessful if we don't beat them also puts undue pressure on the team and frankly the team has played very tight the last few years against them and is one reason why we can't seem to get over the hump. There clearly are mind issues with this game every year. I agree with what O is saying about this game being very important, but you can't coach it like that, I don't think. Need to shake things up, be more loose, something.
Stop fricking scheduling the off week before that game and prepare like any other game and maybe Bama won’t live in LSU’s heads and they might play competitively.
This post was edited on 7/3/19 at 10:31 am
Posted on 7/3/19 at 10:59 am to Ghost of Huey P
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LSU has no control over the SEC schedule and who they get their byes before
Wrong. You can schedule whoever you want non conference the weekend before Bama if there is no conference game scheduled. The SEC does not schedule OOC games. Schools do request byes before certain games and the SEC tries to schedule around those requests. LSU and Alabama have traditionally had an off SEC week prior to playing each other but that does not prevent either school from scheduling an OOC game for that weekend.
This post was edited on 7/3/19 at 11:04 am
Posted on 7/3/19 at 11:02 am to Manswers
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I disagree. This is exactly the wrong focus. The team needs to take each game one at a time and do everything it can to play dominant and flawless football. They need to achieve excellence and consistency. It would actually make me more upset if the team beats Bama but drops 3 other games and plays in the Citrus Bowl. I would be happier if the only loss was to Bama and we finish in the top 5, either being the fourth seed in the playoffs or the top see in the NY6.
Stop thinking beating Bama is the goal. Excellence, consistency, dominance - every week - those are the goals.
It's not the wrong focus. It's exactly the right focus.
His error is not assigning the same signficance to the other 11 games on the schedule. You have to treat every game as if it's do or die.
He's coaching this team is a very human way. It's very human to not take the easier opponents as seriously as the tougher opponents. But a coach with championship aspirations has to fight against human nature because human nature is the reason why letdowns and trap games happen. Saban's talked about this numerous times.
This post was edited on 7/3/19 at 11:08 am
Posted on 7/3/19 at 11:41 am to themunch
Bama has been better than us for years. But we blame the bye week now as an excuse?
Posted on 7/3/19 at 11:52 am to TrueTigerTale
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I could not disagree more, Alabama is the measuring stick for any LSU football coach
This sounds so pathetic, please don't say this in public.
Posted on 7/3/19 at 11:53 am to tigerskin
quote:exactly.. and here he is, still making the same mistakes. Until week 2, he should only be talking about beating Georgia Southern.
that all or nothing mindset just makes us play uptight
Posted on 7/3/19 at 11:57 am to TrueTigerTale
Orgeron needs to figure out a way to beat Dan Mullen too.
Posted on 7/3/19 at 12:34 pm to themunch
We need the off week to recover and heal
Posted on 7/3/19 at 12:41 pm to Big EZ Tiger
I don't know why people always act like JJ came in and carried the tram. We won because the defense held bama to 3 points. Obviously we only scored two field goals.
Posted on 7/3/19 at 12:43 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
Mullen isn't even close to saban. If o can beat Kirby he can beat Mullen.
Posted on 7/3/19 at 1:36 pm to TrueTigerTale
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I could not disagree more, Alabama is the measuring stick for any LSU football coach, having a mental block would be ignoring the fact that while winning New Years Bowl games, you ignore the problem that LSU can not compete against the best, Alabama!
Maybe it's just semantics. I think Damone is right, in that focusing on Alabama specifically is not the goal. Being the program that can, by virtue of doing all of those things he listed, will make you the program that can beat Alabama...without specifically pointing towards them.
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After winning a New Years Bowl game, Coach O is addressing the Alabama problem head on and not glossing over it. That’s is being aggressive, not a wimp.
Things is...this is what he said after the BAMA loss in 2017...in an attempt to look tough.
Then we got prison raped at home to a tune of 29-0.
What I'd prefer at this point is far less talk and a lot more action.
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