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re: One too many base running mistakes tonight

Posted on 6/27/17 at 7:53 am to
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19510 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 7:53 am to
K Rob made a pretty bad decision to steal, other than that I didnt see anything that was a bad decision
Posted by luismlg
Member since Mar 2010
1447 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 7:54 am to
We did not lose because of trying to steal a base, we lost because we walked 3 guys, that was the difference.
Posted by monceaux
Houston
Member since Sep 2013
1182 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:03 am to
There were 4-5 'mistakes' that were bigger than Smith's. Many were good baseball moves in a normal game but terrible situationally.

It was clear Reynolds was overthrowing after the first walk because he was gassed. Not pulling him was an obvious mistake as was Kramer catching the foul ball. Watson seemed to be playing shallow and cost us on the double (as did his late jump).

You'll never play the perfect game but mistakes are magnified on this stage.
Posted by FulshearTiger
Member since Jul 2015
5294 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:05 am to
Kramer catching the ball definitely wasn't a mistake. You don't let an out drop in a bases loaded one out situation in the fourth inning of a baseball game. Unless you are saying he should have given way to Duplantis.
This post was edited on 6/27/17 at 8:07 am
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13735 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:06 am to
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Kramer catching the foul ball.


I keep seeing this posted. Kramer catching that ball was not a mistake I would gladly trade a 2nd out for a run in that situation. Getting up and firing home was the mistake. If he throws to third or doesn't throw the ball at all they have runners on the corner with 2 outs. Ground rule double only scores one in that case. Great hustle play by Kramer with a bad decision after.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41665 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:06 am to
We are an aggressive team. Florida is an aggressive team. Agressive teams get caught sometimes, and that's what happened last night.

Neither team is going to change.

Play ball.
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
15028 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:09 am to
It looked like Duplantis struggled with the sun for a bit. Someone has to catch that for sure. Duplantis would have been ideal because his momentum is heading towards home. You definitely take the out there.
Posted by wheelz007
Denham Springs, LA
Member since Jan 2010
3386 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:16 am to
I agree. In the 7th and 8th innings we're behind and outs and base runners are at a premium.

We should have been patient and extended the inning.

But I guess I get it, this guy was tough to deal with and we're being aggressive with trying to extra base and put more pressure on them.

The good news is, Florida only managed 4 runs against that level of pitching we threw at them.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41665 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:19 am to
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Unless you are saying he should have given way to Duplantis.


I need to see the replay again, I don't think Duplantis could have even caught the ball standing up. At best I think he'd have to make a diving catch.
Posted by Meldedee
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
3404 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:19 am to
quote:


One too many base running mistakes tonight
Smith trying for second was not a mistake. Keep trying to be a bitch though.


And if he had made it he would have been the hero of the day.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41665 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:23 am to
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And if he had made it he would have been the hero of the day.


Only IF and its a big IF, he scored later in the inning. And then only IF and that's another big IF, we went on and won the game.
Posted by irnfan
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2013
1442 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:25 am to
quote:

He overslid the bag and was also tagged, so regardless of replay, he is out
Nope. He overslid the bag but was back on before the second tag. That second tag also suggests that the 2nd baseman thought he was safe as well.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41665 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:27 am to
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Nope. He overslid the bag but was back on before the second tag. That second tag also suggests that the 2nd baseman thought he was safe as well.


Spot on, the fielder knew he missed the tag, he tried a second tag which "landed"; however, Smith did not leave the bag.

Bad call, but hey it happens. We will get the next one.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:33 am to
quote:

One too many base running mistakes tonight

Yep. Sometimes, people try to be heroes when it's not time to be a hero. There's a word for it, but I won't go there.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29692 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:40 am to
Kramer did not make a bad decision trying to steal. Smith did not make a bad decision trying to stretch the double. It's called aggressive base running. I'd prefer to be aggressive and make the other team make the play to get you out. Odds are in your favor they won't the majority of the time.

It took a perfect throw to beat Smith at 2nd. he throws that ball anywhere but where he did, and he's safe.

Had the catcher not fielded the ball in the dirt cleanly, Kramer steals 2nd easily. It was rotten luck that the ball happened to bounce directly into the catchers mitt, b/c that was a terrible pitch. had the ball bounced off the catchers chest pad like you expect, it's an easy stolen base.

Be aggressive. it's what got you here.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91273 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:42 am to
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Kramer did not make a bad decision trying to steal


Unfortunately, he did. You read ball in the dirt and take off in your secondary lead. You can't land fast footed, see the ball hit, then run.

It was a mistake, plain and simple. Being safe there would have been lucky.

I don't believe it cost the game by any means, but it was a mistake.
Posted by FulshearTiger
Member since Jul 2015
5294 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:43 am to
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Had the catcher not fielded the ball in the dirt cleanly, Kramer steals 2nd easily. It was rotten luck that the ball happened to bounce directly into the catchers mitt, b/c that was a terrible pitch. had the ball bounced off the catchers chest pad like you expect, it's an easy stolen base

He wasn't trying to steal second. He was trying to advance to second base on a ball in the dirt. Instead of going as soon as the ball hit the dirt like he did he should have made sure the ball got away from the catcher.

We were down by two runs and he was only one run. We needed base runners and he got thrown out doing something dumb on the bases. It was a very very poor decision to try and advance in that situation.

I also find it amazing how many of you don't understand the difference between trying to steal a base and advance on a wild pitch.
Posted by 1badboy
In space
Member since Jul 2014
8103 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:48 am to
Relax, it ain't over till the fat lady sings!
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91273 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:48 am to
quote:

Had the catcher not fielded the ball in the dirt cleanly, Kramer steals 2nd easily. It was rotten luck that the ball happened to bounce directly into the catchers mitt, b/c that was a terrible pitch. had the ball bounced off the catchers chest pad like you expect, it's an easy stolen base.


Kramer waited to see the ball bounce and scoot away, which is the problem. You're flat footed, you shouldn't try to run at that point unless it gets behind him.
Posted by Tigerinasia
Natchitoches
Member since Jan 2008
1998 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 9:13 am to
This all day every day. His a very good player and might be a tiger great when he's done. But is was a mistake from a baseball awareness and situation standpoint. Young agressive player...it happens but still a mistake.
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