Offseason thread: Should Guice be put back into the LSU record books?

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Why?

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Is it not cancel culture to remove his stats? I’m just asking if you have an opinion one way or another.

For the sake of reputation, shitbags should have their name forever removed from anything to do with LSU. The guy has always had bad baggage and has a bad reputation for being a predator. It’s not like he stole some chips or something from the local gas station.

Using the reasoning to arbitrarily remove Guice from the record books, shouldn't the university arbitrarily move a high character guy Josh Williams into the top five rushers?

Honest question...is there "a book" or some official source? and Is it common practice for ex LSU player to have their stats removed/deleted from records because they got into Legal trouble?

I never meet or spoken with Guice personally, but I was friends with a guy in Guice's friend group. I'm 2 years older than him btw.

My friend was close friends with a close friend of Guice and had hung out with, been to several parties, and had plenty of first hand interactions with Guice. I saw pictures of all of them together so I know he wasn't bullshitting about being around him.

I cannot prove the following is true, only that it is first hand information from someone who I know for a fact was around Guice during his time at LSU.

From his first hand interactions with Guice, he "couldn't fricking stand him." Those were his exact words. He said the guy was an absolute egotist to the highest regard and likely the least humble person he had ever meet. Nearly everything that came out of his mouth would be a brag or was in some way trying to boost his ego. He also mentioned that on several occasions, when asked to sign autographs, he would either laugh at, ignore, or ask them for money in exchange. I had asked him what he thought about the sexual assault allegations. He said he never saw or heard Guice do anything especially egregious sexualy. But that's a subjective statement. However he said he did believe that the allegations were more likely to be true than not, just based on his overall personality, and mentioned that he thought Guice's ego wouldn't allow himself to be told no.

I've never meet Guice, so i can't say what's true or not. I've only heard what people i know have said about their own interactions with him. Personally, I absolutely loved watching him play.

On the otherhand, all the first hand information I've heard from peers on Leonard Fournette were that he was one of the nicest guys they had ever meet. I was on campus at LSU as a freshman during Fournette's freshman year, unfortunately I never got to meet him nor see him passing by on campus.

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yea there is a book.

and last time i looked at it, Guice’s numbers were still there, just not his name. instead “LSU” is written where the player’s name would typically be.

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Yep



It seems to me like LSU is trying to have it both ways. I understand that what Guice did was pretty bad(which may be a bit of an understatement) but does it nullify his stats? And if it does why does LSU show them at all?

Football is not a game played solely by stellar human beings nor is a game played solely by the dregs of society. I wonder if OJ's name is redacted from the USC record books?

It’s not about “breaking” the law.
Billy Cannon’s crimes aren’t comparable at all.
Rape & sexual misconduct allegations for Guice while he was at LSU & LSU was named in the lawsuit. Hell, it was probably part of the “settlement” to remove his name from the record book.

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Not to mention the rushing stats belong just as much to the offensive line and offense as a whole

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That’s why the record is still there. It just doesn’t have his name on it

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Honest question...is there "a book" or some official source?

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Yes, a record is a record regardless of what the player went on to do afterwards. It would be another story if it was found he was using illegal PEDs or something helped achieve the record.