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Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:31 pm to
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:31 pm to
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also LA just took Oregon St QB if that puts a 20th round picks value in perspective


The Orioles took an Oregon State Defender a few years back. That has worked out so far
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68630 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:31 pm to
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Well whats the rule then?

The rule has always been a specific date and time. Lee signed on the last day of the deadline. The deadline has since been moved up to August 1 at 5:00 ET
Posted by Bonjourno
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:32 pm to
Someone mentioned he was the only high school player the Cardinals selected. Will be interesting to see how many of their picks are out of eligibility. They may be in a position to make a push if they drafted a bunch of seniors
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:34 pm to
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Someone mentioned he was the only high school player the Cardinals selected. Will be interesting to see how many of their picks are out of eligibility. They may be in a position to make a push if they drafted a bunch of seniors



Neither of the cardinals "seniors" they took in top 10 rounds have no eligibility left. They have leverage. They are covid juniors technically as they started baseball in college in 2020 season which didnt count towards eligibility.

The rest of their picks were juniors so i dont see where they are saving a huge amount of money in top 10 rounds, certainly not enough to get Cam Johnson the probably $2M+ he wants.

It will pretty much come down to Chase Davis their 1st round pick with a slot value of $3.62M and what he signs for. IF for some reason he signed for only like $1.5-$2M for whatever reason (no way) then maybe theres a chance they could come at Cam Johnson with a gigantic offer. They only have a $6.35M total pool so really does come down to how much they save with Chase Davis if any there.
This post was edited on 7/11/23 at 4:39 pm
Posted by Bonjourno
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:36 pm to
Sounds good!
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:37 pm to
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The Orioles took an Oregon State Defender a few years back. That has worked out so far


He was a kicker
Posted by Jugular Joe
Member since Jan 2020
4590 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:37 pm to
My only concern with Cam Johnson is that the Cards selected him, and they are the very best at developing players in their farm system.
This post was edited on 7/11/23 at 5:02 pm
Posted by purplepylon
NOLA & Laffy
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:37 pm to
LINK

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No surprises here but Steven Milam tells The Advertiser that he is coming to #LSU.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75393 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:39 pm to
9 picks in the 1st 10 rounds 7 are College JRs
Posted by Traceg03
LA
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:40 pm to
Not reading into it as im pretty sure every player does it but Cameron Johnson retweeted picture of him getting drafted and said "yessir"
Posted by BayTiger13
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2022
2413 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:40 pm to
Just to put a number to it, if every LSU player does sign and the only recruit to sign is Blake Mitchell, the roster sits at 43 players right now. 23 position players and 20 pitchers.

This is not being posted to start speculation on who transfers or anything like that. Just simply want to post the roster number.
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
19400 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:42 pm to
The kid just got drafted let him enjoy it
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:48 pm to
He would have enjoyed getting drafted in the first 5 rounds not 20
Posted by StTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
3054 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:48 pm to
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They only have a $6.35M total pool so really does come down to how much they save with Chase Davis if any there.


To add to this, they can go over the pool but have to pay a tax. After 317k over the pool (5%, 6.67m total) they lose a draft pick and no team has ever gone past the 5% over threshold.
Also, the first 150k bonus for rounds 11-20 don't count against the bonus pool.

Cardinals took a flyer to see if they can save somewhere and throw whatever is left at him. I wouldn't feel secure until the deadline is passed
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
43079 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:48 pm to
It’s going to be great when LSU sends him from the 20th round to the 1st
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3669 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:55 pm to
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Cardinals took a flyer to see if they can save somewhere and throw whatever is left at him. I wouldn't feel secure until the deadline is passed


I think it’s more to use as leverage in negotiating with their top picks. They can point to Johnson and say they’ll just use their slot money to sign him if they don’t agree to terms.
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
4927 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:58 pm to
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They can point to Johnson and say they’ll just use their slot money to sign him if they don’t agree to terms.

That wouldn’t work, because if they don’t sign a player they lose his slot value.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3669 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 5:12 pm to
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That wouldn’t work, because if they don’t sign a player they lose his slot value.


Sorry, I wasn’t remembering the details right from last season. One of LSU’s signees almost didn’t sign because he was asking for a significant amount over slot. I think another one of LSU’s signees was drafted as a flyer late by the same team. That flyer pick was still leverage, but it was for the extra money they had from going under slot on their other signees. It wasn’t to use that player’s slot money. I forgot that they do lose the slot value if the player doesn’t sign.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
16890 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 5:13 pm to
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That's how Bryce Harper was drafted after what should have been his junior year of high school. Got his GED at 16, played one year of juco, and was drafted #1 overall.


Wood bat league JUCO and won the Golden Spikes, right?

That guy's natural talent is obscene.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
16890 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 5:16 pm to
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If he isn't drafted, don't see any reason why he wouldn't want to come back and play another year. Same with Travinski. Not really anything to lose by doing that as opposed to being a GA. You're still involved with the team and going to school every day in both situations.


If they want to start at catcher they may look for a team with a hole in the roster at that position and transfer.
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