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re: objective look at the defense

Posted on 9/30/23 at 9:59 pm to
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 9/30/23 at 9:59 pm to
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House is supposed to be the LB coach and our LBs are always out of position and missing tackles.


this is the real dirty here, the DC isnt even doing a good job teaching his specific position unit
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 9/30/23 at 10:00 pm to
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Speaking of Hilton, did I see him being carried off the field? I think he may have hurt a knee landing after that last throw.



yes, he landed awkwardly

the OM DB was hurt too
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/30/23 at 10:01 pm to
compare that to Aranda and LBs

Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 9/30/23 at 10:02 pm to
we missed Greg Brooks badly tonight
Posted by KiwiHead
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Posted on 9/30/23 at 10:15 pm to
Ali Gaye and Ojulari were 3 year starters on the edge.It helped cover up some deficiencies in the defensive backfield that were around last year as well
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
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Posted on 9/30/23 at 10:16 pm to
The d line was horrible vs the run tonight.
Posted by weptiger
Georgia
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Posted on 9/30/23 at 10:21 pm to
Aside from coaching issues, the lack of defensive team speed and tackling problems are evident. I don’t understand tolerance for any guy that doesn’t tackle with proper technique.
Posted by dallastigers
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Posted on 9/30/23 at 10:24 pm to

In man coverage are we struggling the same for both press and off man coverage?
Posted by OGhunter777
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Posted on 9/30/23 at 10:24 pm to
Players aren’t good enough. Years of sub par recruiting on the defensive side the ball, particularly secondary players has caught up. Portal guys are dudes who couldn’t cut it for their previous teams.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 9/30/23 at 10:27 pm to
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Ali Gaye and Ojulari were 3 year starters on the edge.It helped cover up some deficiencies in the defensive backfield that were around last year as well




great point plus Foucha and Brooks were big pickups in thd portal

last year was pretty good until TAMU and UGA and we were playing 3rd and 4th DL because of injuries
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 9/30/23 at 10:27 pm to
i think all of that is true, but Weeks is much more of a net positive than negative.

Possible improvements:

DE: Womack NT: Jefferson DT. Wingo Jack: Swinson

Swinson and Womack are upgrades on Jones and Ovie.

options 2

DE: Maason Smith NT: Jefferson DT: Wingo Jack: Perkins.

Bigger DL makes up for smaller Jack.
give perkins a position, lets us run Nickel and not have to drop Perkins into coverage. essential like a 3-3 over I guess.

Weeks is just a better Lb than Speights. that’s settled. please don’t go back.

Put Welch out there. play more
man.

Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 9/30/23 at 10:38 pm to
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In man coverage are we struggling the same for both press and off man coverage?


duce chestnutt is a perfect example, syracuse transfer portal guy

he is good enough to run the system and be in proper position but not good enough to make a play in man and he gets torched so he gets targeted

he didnt play at all tonight

everyone at CB and S has ability and glaring weaknesses, it is a mishmash of shite and there is no one base scheme that seems to fit the best four, nickel and dime units

one of the OM passing TDs everyone was in zone except alexander who was mysteriouly in straight man and left his primary empty

run fits by burns were atrocious and he lead the team in tackles tonight because the DL and LBs were non-existent in the middle of the field


Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 9/30/23 at 10:40 pm to
quote:

i think all of that is true, but Weeks is much more of a net positive than negative.

Possible improvements:

DE: Womack NT: Jefferson DT. Wingo Jack: Swinson

Swinson and Womack are upgrades on Jones and Ovie.

options 2

DE: Maason Smith NT: Jefferson DT: Wingo Jack: Perkins.

Bigger DL makes up for smaller Jack.
give perkins a position, lets us run Nickel and not have to drop Perkins into coverage. essential like a 3-3 over I guess.

Weeks is just a better Lb than Speights. that’s settled. please don’t go back.

Put Welch out there. play more
man.



agree on weeks, positives far outweigh negatives

all of your personnel suggestions will happen, they have to happen

kelly will play everyone, we have seen that, he doesnt have a choice
Posted by TigerVespamon
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/30/23 at 10:47 pm to
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Duke’s defense is better than ours. Let that sink in.
Tulane only allowed Ole Miss 363 total yards. Let that sink in.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 9/30/23 at 10:48 pm to
to be fair
kiffin was masterful tonight
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 9/30/23 at 11:26 pm to
I dont think womack played tonight
Posted by Grim
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Posted on 9/30/23 at 11:36 pm to
My dog could have looked masterful against LSU's D tonight
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 9/30/23 at 11:41 pm to
is your dog going to be in the transfer portal next season?
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 9/30/23 at 11:47 pm to
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Did you mention bad tackling? You need to include bad tackling

Atrocious pussy attempts at tackles. It looked like little kids who don't want to play football when it came to tackling tonight. They would just barely make contact with the ball carrier just to make it look like they were trying.
Posted by num1lsufan
Meraux
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 10:31 am to
what defense?
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