re: Nuss needs to run some sort of "Pro Style" offense next year. (Get under the center)

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They'll fling shite at you here but I believe you are right in theory.

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He's not. It's a tired trope that is meaningless.

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Unfortunately, Nuss has probably never worked under center in his entire life

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He literally did it this past season. Specifically, I recall he did it on 4th and 1 against Alabama starting in the shotgun then coming up under center and getting two yards for the first.

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I like how you think we can just incorporate an entirely different offensive philosophy for a specific situation without completely telegraphing what play we’re trying to run.

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This isn't as complex as some are making it out to be. It's not very complicated to install a package of plays out of I formation, Pro Set or Ace Back sets to use between the 40s as well as short yard & goal line. An offense can still operate out the majority of the time in the shotgun & pistol looks.

Last I checked offenses can still pass out of these traditional sets. NFL offenses have evolved to using more shotgun yet they still use the Ace Back formation to take shots downfield off of play action between the 40s. I don't care what anyone says, play action is still the most effective way to move LBs & safeties out of position to attack certain parts of the field & to create favorable matchups for WRs especially against certain man coverages. Running a few plays out of these sets could have simplified some the presnap decision making for Nuss which in return would have cut down on some of his bad post snap reads & given him opportunities to compete higher percentage throws.

One of the issues with the offensive line in the run game was blocking in space. At times they struggled mightily in the aspect. Why not mix in something different to see if that would help? Instead of having to block with wide splits, line them up tight at times & let's see if they could maul the opposition in a phone booth.

Not only that but after Dellinger went down against Texas A&M, the interior line struggled badly in pass pro blocking with wide splits & in space. Implementing a few play designs involving max protection would have helped remedy this issue.

Perfect example of that was the sack fumble of Nuss in the Bama game. The change of possession after the turn over on downs near midfield was the opportune time to take a shot downfield. Sloan tried & it looked like the play call was to try to hit Aaron Anderson on a deep post but the immediate pressure right in Nussmeier's face blew up the play call.

Using I formation or Ace formation with narrower line splits at that particular place in the game would have along with going max protect would have prevented the mental error by DJ Chester of allowing the LB to come right up
the middle untouched. It would have also given Nuss a higher percentage to complete that post route to Anderson especially off of play action.

So no, sprinkling in some traditional offensive sets wouldn't make the play calling predictable. It would do just the opposite & make the offense even more unpredictable. You would be adding in even more wrinkles for opposing coaches to prepare for. Had some of these concepts been used this past season, some of the weaknesses along the line & at QB could have been masked by putting those players in a better position to succeed.

And run once in a while when a first down is staring him in the face to keep a drive going. Period

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You’re covering the same amount of ground and running down hill in shotgun or under center. Getting the ball 6yds deep and rushing vs rushing from 6yds deep and getting football at 3yds doesn’t change a thing. Thats why the greatest minds in offensive football have gone to this. Stop w/ “it’s simple logic”. You did prove you never played or played a skilled position lol

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I’m a basketball player, I just told you I don’t know as much about football as some, but for some reason you think that disqualifies someone from having a football conversation. You do realize there’s NFL coaches with little to no football experience correct?

Anyways, I do know that people run slower with the ball than without it. So tell me how it’s the same when out of the gun I get the ball immediately vs from center when I get it after I’ve ran without the ball for 3 yards. How is momentum the same under both circumstances? Would really like to hear that one as well.

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Thats why the greatest minds in offensive football have gone to this. 

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Sean McVay, Kyle Shanahan, Sean Payton, Joe Brady, Ben Johnson are some of the greatest offensive minds at the Pro level yet they all still use the concepts discussed in this thread especially between the 40s. Maybe you should pay closer attention while watching the pro game.

Very well thought out and presented. You are exactly right.

He doesn’t need to line up under center he does however need to actually run with the ball and keep drives going and present some type of threat that he will keep it and run. I have never in my life seen an offense that is based on having a dual threat QB ran by someone who never keeps it or runs at all.

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it ain't that hard mixing it up opens up options that the D has to consider

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No, it has the opposite effect. If you run too many formations and personnel packages with specific plays, then you are far easier to scout. Players will know to look for a small number of possible outcomes when we line up in a particular formation or when a certain player enters the game.

Kelly addressed this during the season. They dropped using 2 and 3 TE sets for a while because they couldn’t pass effectively out of them and defenses quickly figured out they could sit on the run as soon as we lined up. They weren’t running effectively because Pimpton and Green weren’t great blockers at TE and we were much better passing with 3 or 4 WRs in the game, so it just didn’t make sense to use those sets outside of short yardage anymore.

It is far more effective to run more plays out of fewer formation options and to not be completely predictable with player substitutions leading to groups of plays being run, at least outside of predictable situations like short yardage and goal line. Otherwise, you make it a lot easier for opposing defenses to scout you.

Nuss needs to run on 3rd downs when needed and have a consistent deep threat. We finally had a good deep threar against Oklahoma and mopped the floor with a pretty good defense.

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One problem is 20hrs/wk rule when these cfb kids have a hard enough time getting spread concept executions right.

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Players have the playbooks as well as all 22 & endzone film from games & practices available to them on tablets. Also individual units are encouraged & required to meet & practice certain aspects of the scheme/playbook on their own time to get around the 20 hour/wk rule.