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re: Nuss as a starter would have thrown 19 INTs

Posted on 12/4/22 at 10:38 am to
Posted by supersaints9
Colleyville,Tx
Member since Dec 2009
14146 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 10:38 am to
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If race wasn't involved, people would be singing praises of JD and he'd be hailed as our guy.


BS!!! JD can’t see the field or trust his receivers to make plays. That has been his knock all year. It doesn’t have squat to do with his race . You have shown you are a RACIST POS! frick off!
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19053 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 10:38 am to
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Did someone jus say turnovers don’t matter?! That’s fantastic.


Some do, some dont.

Nuss INT was no worse than a punt. Situation however was we needed points. Everything is always relative to the situatuion. His sack fumble was more damaging as it was deep in our own territory and UGA was able to kneel it out.

That being said lets look at the options.

Kelly has been begging Daniels to throw the ball downfield and had some limited success. How do you improve that?

Nuss has show the ability to push the ball downfield with some raw bravado that needs some check.

So is it easier to get some one to push harder or someone to reign it in a little bit? I think the latter, JMHO
This post was edited on 12/4/22 at 10:39 am
Posted by LSUDAN1
Member since Oct 2010
8960 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 10:40 am to
JD is a mediocre QB which has zero upside moving forward. Thanks for getting us to the SECCG but we need someone who isn't afraid to let the ball go downfield. Saw so many PI opportunities in other games yesterday because of QBs who at least put up 50/50 balls and the defense makes the penalty.

Watch JD was like we stepped back 11-13 years with JJ at QB.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 10:41 am to
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Comments like this should lead to an insta ban


Yep, race baiting pos needs to be removed with quickness.
Posted by Korali
Member since Nov 2013
812 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 10:41 am to
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Comments like this should lead to an insta ban


In my opinion openly using slurs should be an insta ban but this forum is what it is.

And you call us snowflakes.
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
65865 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 10:42 am to
No way to know this. Perhaps he's better with more reps in his 2nd season.

I'm not upset at the 1 INT he threw considering he was having to throw so many homerun balls trailing so much with limited time. He made some incredible throws.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14407 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 10:43 am to
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Nuss as a starter would have thrown

For 30+ TDs
Boutte would still be a Belitnikoff WR instead of having 1 TD in the regular season
LSU would have had a better run game from the RBs because teams couldn't load the box due to no deep threat passing
Nussmeier wouldn't have been sacked 40 times due to holding the ball too long
Denbrock and Kelly wouldn't have to trim down the playbook to only the plays JD can run
WRs would actually have YAC instead of running hitch routes and outs

If you think Nuss wouldn't develop and learn as a starter and eliminate mistakes the same should hold true for daniels that as a 4 year starter he will never be able to throw deep or timing routes and will take unnecessary sacks. The truth is that a new starter is more likely to improve vs someone who has 4 years experience starting.
This post was edited on 12/4/22 at 10:44 am
Posted by mikelsu15
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2006
1510 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 10:44 am to
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Nuss as a starter would have thrown 19 INTs


Not really. Unless we fall behind by multiple scores in every game.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 10:45 am to
Some of these comments make it seem like we went 3-9
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
65865 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 10:45 am to
Exactly.

I would much rather have QB who throws 4-5 TDs with 1 or 2 INTs over a guy who throws 0-1 TDs with 0 turnovers.

Having a QB capable of making all the throws just elevates the receivers so much more.
Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
7629 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 10:46 am to
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Unless we fall behind by multiple scores in every game


You mean like against Southern????

Posted by Drayton80
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2018
813 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 10:48 am to
A lot more touchdowns and less fricking sacks also
Posted by mikelsu15
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2006
1510 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 10:50 am to
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You mean like against Southern????


No, I mean he wouldn’t necessarily be such a gunslinger in a competitive game. I think you knew that though.
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
6060 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 10:52 am to
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And you call us snowflakes.


Well, the mentally weak love using racism as a reason for everything, so you are what you are I guess.

I’m sure when everyone wanted Rohan to play over Booty back in the day, it was racism then too huh
This post was edited on 12/4/22 at 10:54 am
Posted by BastropRam13
Member since Oct 2018
140 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 10:53 am to
Now. That is a dumb statement.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
7714 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 10:54 am to
I mean one is a 4 year starter and the other is a redshirt freshman.
Posted by Drayton80
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2018
813 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 10:56 am to
Also a QB who could potentially get better. Daniels is maxed out and will never get better. He has played a ton of games and has way too much experience to hold the ball so long and have no clue where the ball should go.
Posted by coondaddy21
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
3222 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 11:00 am to
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Nuss as a starter would have thrown 19 INTs


I believe he would have had more than JD, no doubt, but I doubt he would have had 19. The key would have been for him as a starter is learning how to not make those mistakes. I am sure there would have been a learning curve but I feel like he would have progressed throughout the season where he wasn’t throwing those same picks he would have thrown in the beginning of the year. Plus, if he is sustaining drives and putting more points on the board, you can afford to throw a few more pics. It’s a risk reward model. The greater the risk, the greater the reward.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14407 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 11:06 am to
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Some of these comments make it seem like we went 3-9

Not really, but there are some indisputable truths to his season and QB play.
One of the most dynamic WRs in CFB scored 1 TD in the regular season and was a non-factor
The QB took 7 more sacks than Max johnson did last year with a worse OL. 40 vs 33.
Our best position group is the WRs and the inability to stretch the field has negated one of LSU's best strengths
Defenses don't fear our passing game and have loaded the box which adversely effects our run game

The positives are that Daniels is an absolute weapon as a runner and his dynamic running has been a factor in winning games. His conservative passing has eliminated costly turnovers. Those can't be discounted. If he can somehow learn to be more aggressive as a passer and trust his WRs to make plays he should be the starter. I'm just not sure he can at this stage.
Posted by CleanSlate
Member since Nov 2020
1681 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 11:07 am to
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In my opinion openly using slurs should be an insta ban but this forum is what it is.


Which slurs? Who? Give me one example? Or are you just making shite up and claiming them as fact? Makes sense. If you don’t like this board you don’t have to post here.
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