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re: Note To AD's around the country. Be very careful who you name as interim coach

Posted on 11/25/16 at 4:20 pm to
Posted by Rymeaux
Dark Side of the Moon
Member since Feb 2016
88 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 4:20 pm to
Kingbob, you nailed it.

Only thing I would argue is that the Fla loss is largely due to individual mistakes by our players, something that CEO shouldn't be held accountable for. There was no precedent under his brief tenure for what happened in that game, and he isn't out there repeatedly fumbling the ball in the red zone.

I, for one, have no difficulty seeing the immediate overall improvement of the team from Miles to Orgeron. Clamoring for a coach simply to find a coach NOT named Orgeron is pathetic and ignores all of the obvious positives after he took over.
Posted by Jthomley
Arkansas
Member since Oct 2013
380 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 4:21 pm to
I agree with you . The answer of your first question if they would have won certain games with miles and cam . Maybe maybe not . With miles the team nearly always played down to their opponent. Coach who had no choice for an OC , so he used a man who hasn't Bn an OC in 10 plus years , . The individual games rushing record broke 3 times , total yards per game vs sec broke also. None of that would have happen this year, coach o helped the players get to be what they were. If lsu would hire an excellent OC, which at 1.2 million shouldn't be hard , keep aranda they would be just fine next year with O. Everybody wants an offensive minded coach , and most of them don't give a damn about defense, look at today 48 to 44 Memphis wins . Fans don't need that here
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 4:26 pm to
CEO knew going into this that it was a temp position. It was made clear to him that he was not an automatic shoe-in, even if he ran the table. CEO should not attempt to change the deal after the horse is out the barn.... if that is what the OP is implying. It's the obligation of both LSU and CEO to honor the terms of the deal - for the best interests of the program. Sentimentality kills - as we found out with the previous Head Coach.
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10724 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 4:30 pm to
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We should have picked a worse coach right?


Picked one with a weak record. Picked one and gave him one of the most talented teams in the country. Picked one that was a position coach that did not have people knocking down his door to be a coordinator much less a head coach.
Posted by BayouBuster
Mathews, la.
Member since Aug 2009
490 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 4:30 pm to
Thanks a lot! We are now a little more stupid for reading this senseless post.
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10724 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 4:33 pm to
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Minimizing what Coach O has done is fricking stupid at this point. If you'd rather hire a different coach, that's fine. There are better candidates. But the shite talking of O given what he has done for the program is fricking stupid. You guys need to find room in your tiny arse brains for 1) respect for what O has done and 2) your coaching preference going forward.


Much of the O bashing is in response to those pushing him to be the coach of this once great program. He is to be thanked for serving during this season, his service was needed and he delivered. But, now it seems he along with others want to to place the future of this program on a coach based on his accent? How about his resume? Do you really think that if BDV had been given the job and had even beat Bama and Fla people would be crying for him to get a job? No.

People are calling for O because he is "one of us" not because he is the best man for the job. The best you can say is that he will not mess up what Les built, really?
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10724 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 4:36 pm to
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We are now a little more stupid for reading this senseless post.


Others, maybe. You, sir, could not get any more stupid, despite my best efforts.
Posted by Sir Fury
Member since Jan 2015
5033 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 4:46 pm to
It's a good start for an interim HC using most of the old HCs staff. Meanwhile the other leading candidate had his OWN staff didn't fare any better in an easier conference.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19707 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:00 pm to
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Only if the coach is from the same state and you have stupid fans



and if he has a really cool accent.
Posted by TheDude321
Member since Sep 2005
3244 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:36 pm to
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Do Les Miles and Coach Cam beat Ole Miss, Arkansas, and Texas A&M this year. After what you saw the first four games?


Well, for one thing, Miles has always won at least 8 games per season as head coach at LSU; Orgeron has never won that many as head coach before.

Miles has always beaten A&M.

LSU's RBs ran all over Ole Miss and Arkansas this year, using the same style of offense that Miles always uses (a run-based offense)...so it's pretty safe to say that he would have coached victories in both of those games.

Miles has also done very well against Florida (7-4, which is better than anyone else over those same 11 seasons), so he likely would've won that game this year too.

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But the shite talking of O given what he has done for the program is fricking stupid.


I have never bashed Coach O.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41811 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:45 pm to
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we have no idea if O would have been Wisconsin or Auburn.


Get the frick out of here with that bullshite. Our offense was beyond bad in those games. Try again as you glorify his holiness Pope Les.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
64471 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:49 pm to
quote:

I, for one, have no difficulty seeing the immediate overall improvement of the team from Miles to Orgeron. Clamoring for a coach simply to find a coach NOT named Orgeron is pathetic and ignores all of the obvious positives after he took over.





So we keep Ensminger, right? Look at all those records on offense.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41811 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:50 pm to
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Much of the O bashing is in response to those pushing him to be the coach of this once great program.


I'm calling bullshite on this. A handful of self righteous posters decided to tell the world that O sucked and to remove him from consideration. The rest of the rant said to those arse hats to frick off telling us what to do. Sound familiar. I want Jimbo or Herman personally but if it's Orgeron than I suggest you get on board the O train or go dick ride some other school that is currently winning.
Posted by OblongMidget
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
207 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:51 pm to
Clemson says hi
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
21979 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:53 pm to
What are you trying to say? O is no dummy- he was smart enough to unload Cam's worthless arse. He also recognized that he needed to stick w/ Etling over Harris.
Posted by inthebr
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
902 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:56 pm to
1) I wasn't responding to you

2) I wasn't saying Miles couldn't have won those game - you could argue either way. I was pointing out that it is questionable, and that those were not gimme games. The trajectory of the year was not good when Miles was canned, but Miles could've turned it around given the opportunity just like O did. Don't understand why people take away from O that he had the team ready to play and won a number of games that could've gone either way (and blew out a number of those teams).
Posted by LSUinMA
Commerce, Texas
Member since Nov 2008
4912 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:57 pm to
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You do not seem familiar with how interim coaches typically fair.


You do not seem familiar with how to use the word fare.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19707 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 6:12 pm to
quote:

this. A handful of self righteous posters decided to tell the world that O sucked and to remove him from consideration.

Merely pointing out that O was 3-21 in conference at his only permanent Hc job doesn't make anyone self righteous. Only rational.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22626 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 6:17 pm to
quote:

May be tougher to replace than you realize.


I'm just laughing at all the people that wanted miles gone but didn't consider this when they were chasing him out.
Posted by rob62
Member since Sep 2016
5165 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 6:17 pm to
Dude, frick you.
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