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re: No one expected 10 wins in year one.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:26 am to LSUBALLER
Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:26 am to LSUBALLER
The firing of Wade killed all my interest in basketball. No disrespect to MM, but Wade made LSU basketball fun again. Not saying what he did was right or wrong (it certainly was/is something every other MBB coach does), but the General will now be one of the greatest “what if’s?” In LSU history, much less basketball history.
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:26 am to MasterAbe1
Agree 100%
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:15 am to BPTiger
Putting a number on expected wins is setting yourself up for failure. That's why 2019 was so great: a little doubt with the added suspense of Joe saying he was anticipating throwing up 40, 50, or 60 points a game left us contemplating if that truth was really so? And so it was. Let the chips fall as they will. Although, BK's offensive prowess is still a question that remains to be answered. That's what makes looking forward to next season so great!
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 1:19 am
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:30 am to mmcgrath
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they just wish for failure to somehow redeem their little man crush.
That’s pretty presumptuous of you.
No one is wishing for failure. Come on. That is an idiotic statement to make.
There is no leadership. There’s no fire, effort. That’s on the coach.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:47 am to la_birdman
Agreed it’s on the HC. What I watched today was very uninspiring. This team has no fight or emotion in them. Even worse is that this team would be middle of the SWAC.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 3:13 am to The Pirate King
quote:still sucking coach O off in a basketball thread
Oh the irony after blaming every time someone farted in football ops on Coach O.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:12 am to Pelican fan99
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Imagine still blaming Will Wade for this shite show
He’s literally the reason we’re here, dumbfrick
I guess the athletic director who has every major sport except basketball ranked in the top 5 within 3 years is the incompetent one huh? Not the guy who could barely get to 18 wins while he was making strong arse offers on his personal phone with his wife’s credit card?Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:31 am to BPTiger
Shut the frick up idiot
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:18 am to mmcgrath
Pretty much. Maybe in the future he will cover his tracks being the bag man. And lay off being recorded on the phone. That would be a start.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:21 am to mmcgrath
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There are just Will Wade lovers who are complaining
Bwhahaha. Try realism.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:36 am to mmcgrath
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There are just Will Wade lovers who are complaining. They know what Wade did and what was left for CMM, but they just wish for failure to somehow redeem their little man crush.
I think you are right, but there is more to it at the moment.
At work, I am dealing with a client who recently outsourced a self managed process to a vendor. The transition has not been smooth and the vendor has real issues.
The people with my client are complaining for two (2) reasons - (1) unhappiness because the self managed process left their organization along with some jobs and (2) vendors work has been abysmal so far.
In this scenario Wade is the self managed process and (2) McMahon is the vendor.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:46 am to DeathValley85
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Wade revived and helped to kill LSU basketball. That’s disappointing for a lot of fans and rightfully so.
WW deserves credit for reinvigorating MBB at LSU. He also deserves blame for his mistakes that made it basically impossible to keep him.
Instead of staking out pro vs anti-WW or pro vs anti-MM lets just stay pro-MBB. What we have now sucks, it is difficult to wholly place the blame on MM but he is not necessarily without blame either. Next season needs to be markedly better (or even some sort of turnaround this season). By the end of next season we either see the resurgence of MBB or a search for a better coach. And I was happy with the hire, I thought MM was very good at Murray State. The last 7 games have been horrific, though.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 7:08 am to BPTiger
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No one expected 10 wins in year one.
A major conference team that fails to reach 10 wins is likely the worst team in the country. Who the hell was thinking a record of 10-20 is good in college basketball?
Posted on 1/29/23 at 7:10 am to BPTiger
Damn, thought this was going to be a good offseason football thread. Instead it’s just another shitty basketball thread.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 7:15 am to tigahlovah
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Just Wade and the few others caught up in the fbi sting, right? Is it fun living in candyland???
How many of the others left the trail of breadcrumbs Wade left?
Trying to excuse Wade by saying everyone else did it is overlooking the fact that not everyone left as much evidence they did it.
I miss the fun of WW basketball. At the same time, I am disappointed in WW for putting LSU in this position. And while several of the losses were expected, I am also disappointed in MM for not figuring out how to correct this stretch of noncompetitive games, at least one of which should have been a win.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 7:48 am to BPTiger
There are so many fans on this site that can only live in the present and not make the mental jump to realize that the present is built on the past. There was no LSU MBB after WW deliberately built a bomb and lit it. Now we're still in ground effect trying to fly but it'll take time. Those that can't link the past to present seems unable to link the present to the future. Three words - It'll take time.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 8:24 am to NorthSider72
Will Wade is a winning basketball coach at LSU (1 NIT and 4 NCAA tourneys). Wade was caught doing what all the other teams do who aspire to get good players. It is his fault he was caught. All that he was doing is now legal with NIL.
Woodward hired a good mid major coach who is unproven at the Power 5 level. The odds of him achieving Wade's level of success are low just based on base rate probabilities.
If we did not get 10 wins against the low level of competition in the pre SEC, that would have been a major problem. So yes, anyone who saw the schedule expected at least 10 wins by this point! The underperformance of this team relative to their talent all year long is an early worry for the future of McMahon. I doubt he is able to achieve 2 NCAA tourneys in his first 5 years, much less 4. If his teams underperform like they are now, he may not last 5 years at LSU.
Woodward hired a good mid major coach who is unproven at the Power 5 level. The odds of him achieving Wade's level of success are low just based on base rate probabilities.
If we did not get 10 wins against the low level of competition in the pre SEC, that would have been a major problem. So yes, anyone who saw the schedule expected at least 10 wins by this point! The underperformance of this team relative to their talent all year long is an early worry for the future of McMahon. I doubt he is able to achieve 2 NCAA tourneys in his first 5 years, much less 4. If his teams underperform like they are now, he may not last 5 years at LSU.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:07 pm to PNG Futbol
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All that he was doing is now legal with NIL.
Nothing he was doing is now legal. Similar to what is now legal but not legal the way he was doing it. Paying a player's baby momma directly is never going to be legal.
Everything he did do is commonplace but not the way he did it. Other coaches have at least two layers between themselves and the bagman. Usually, they have someone not actually on the staff doing the deeds that potentially cause trouble for the team with the NCAA.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:13 pm to mdomingue
quote:Read some of my other posts and give me your thought.
mdomingue
I’m not happy with the semantics of it. There is a greater thought than the process if you take my meaning.
Neither of us are simple thinkers, the how shouldn’t determine the why.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:19 pm to BPTiger
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This was meant to be a football thread.
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And here we are at 12 wins.
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