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re: NIL collectives are cool

Posted on 12/6/24 at 8:27 am to
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
7158 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 8:27 am to
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There is no option 3. We need to fricking choose accordingly


Well that’s not true. We can also accept the present, fail or be unable to adapt, and fall behind.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175892 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 8:28 am to
What kind of a simp would sign up to give recurring payments to an NIL fund. LOL at that thread being stickied earlier.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38099 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 8:28 am to
This post is a little ridiculous lol. LSU football provides entertainment. This is more like buying a product. If you fell on hard times, Samsung isn’t going to help either lol.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38099 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 8:31 am to
And again. Horrible comparison. A fanatic football fan who has the opportunity to contribute to a high tier football team is not a “simp”. Again, you’re buying a good product on the field. Not attention from someone lol
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29288 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 8:48 am to
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A fanatic football fan who has the opportunity to contribute to a high tier football team is not a “simp”. Again, you’re buying a good product on the field. Not attention from someone lol


I used this comparison in another thread, every poster on this site could have given $1000/mo….Ellison would have still outbid us.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38099 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 8:54 am to
Thankfully the posters on this site equal a very small percentage of LSU fans lol.

It’s not a matter of if you don’t contribute frick you! But people who want to contribute are chastised for doing so lol. This fan base is wild
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 9:00 am
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
21190 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 8:58 am to
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Paying High School players is dumb, they haven't proven shite at a high level. This is the biggest waste of money in all of sports.
this.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29288 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:03 am to
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It’s not a matter of if you don’t contribute frick you!


frick me? I have 6 season tickets; I pay way more than my fair share.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38099 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:04 am to
I don’t think you read my post correctly.
Posted by armydude
Member since Aug 2014
1120 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:07 am to
Going to the grocery store is dog water, but we still need to eat to survive.

In order to survive (win) in College Football, you need to pay.

Plain and simple.

If LSU winning doesn't mean that much to you, don't contribute and stop going to the games, because this NIL BS is not going anywhere.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38099 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:11 am to
If you feel like you contribute enough already, ok.

But is all of this negativity painting people as “simps “ or asking “what are you going to do for me?” necessary? You guys think players like seeing this kind of shite? Don’t pay if you don’t want. But please stop making LSU look like a program who doesn’t give a frick and actively chastises people who do lol. We are better than that.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34163 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:18 am to
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maybe mega millionaire or billionaire. These kids don't deserve that money. This is their opportunity to earn big money, and if not, at least they can get a college education for free and special treatment. It is absurd, and just another bs agenda compliments of our political system. They wanted the black man to make the money. The sad thing is, if they earn it, they will get it, and maybe not deserve the amount of money they get in the pros, at least they will have earned it. As it is now, they earn nothing.


"Deserve" is relative. Whether or not anyone "deserves" anything is totally subjective. What isn't subjective is clearly there is a marketplace for college football and college football players. Otherwise, media networks wouldn't pay billions for the rights to broadcast the games. Fans wouldn't pay thousands for the opportunity to attend the games. Donors wouldn't pay thousands/millions to support the players if there wasn't a marketplace. If you don't want to contribute to that market, then that is totally your call. I don't contribute to Taylor Swift's market. But I also don't have any issue with her earning untold millions because other people do.

Would it be unwarranted for a singer to be paid millions of dollars as an 18 year old, even without a college degree? What about an artist? Circus performer, etc, etc,? If the market is there why should they not be allowed to earn money? College football is a multi-million/billion dollar entertainment industry. The players of which are the most important members of that industry. So why is it unreasonable for them to want to share in the significant revenue they help create? The players in the NFL share in the revenue...which is earned in the EXACT same way as college programs (primarily though media contacts, ticket sales, licensing deals)

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Underwood becoming a multi millionaire before earning anything


He has "earned" it. His ability as a player has created high enough demand for his talent that schools like Michigan, LSU, etc were willing to pay millions for it. If there was no demand for his ability no one would pay him a dime for it.

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what we should do is get a collective nil for the brightest of the brightest to become cancer research doctors and cure that terrible disease.


Feel free. No one is stopping you from doing so. Many on here probably already contribute to some sort of organization/charity that does just that.

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but not some uneducated gangsta making millions of unwarranted dollars.


Racism with a side of jealousy. Nice! Clearly the money is "warranted" because someone, probably several someones are willing to pay it to him. If it wasn't warranted, no one would pay him the money.
Posted by covtgr
Covington
Member since Aug 2004
1272 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:20 am to
I don't disagree, but prefer winning, so I'm willing to pitch in a little bit to help win.

HOWEVER, it would be really nice if LSU could recognize this is a tough pill for a lot of people to swallow and treat our fans with a little more respect. There's a laundry list of things they could do that wouldn't cost a ton of money and just would let the people supporting LSU know they have our back. Non exhaustive list -

Fix the atrocious concession situation - price, quality, and selection...lots of pro teams have gone to this approach with success...you don't have to gouge to make good money on concessions and you'll sell more and have more people attending/sticking around
Fix the deplorable bathroom situation
Open the Union on Gameday and welcome people back to campus
Back off on gobbling up every available parking spot to auction off
Offer simple but attractive giveaways for people donating
Offer cool merchandise for purchase for the collective

It's really not that hard to understand. Paying huge amounts of money to buy the talent that you're already paying huge amounts of money to watch is a lot to ask. At least respect the people you're asking.
Posted by mpwilging
Punta Gorda Isles, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
9592 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:32 am to
Mark Stoops at UK makes $9m and they were a dumpster fire this year
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34163 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:48 am to
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HOWEVER, it would be really nice if LSU could recognize this is a tough pill for a lot of people to swallow and treat our fans with a little more respect. There's a laundry list of things they could do that wouldn't cost a ton of money and just would let the people supporting LSU know they have our back. Non exhaustive list -


That's not an unreasonable statement. But I think the one big difference between pro franchise and college football programs is that the pro franchise only has to fund itself. College football programs are relied upon to virtually fund the entire athletic department because just about every other sport on campus operates at a loss. It would be as if the Dallas Cowboys had to pay for the Dallas hockey team, soccer team, (to a lesser extent) baseball team. women's basketball team, etc. LSU can't sell enough expensive parking passes, TAF fees, etc for the other sports because (1) no other sport attracts 90K customers per game and (2) the demand for those sports isn't high enough to cover their expenses. LSU's gymnastics and women's basketball programs are great...but they still operate at a loss that (primarily) football has to cover

LSU is trying to maximize its highest earning product.
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
21190 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:00 am to
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But is all of this negativity painting people as “simps “ or asking “what are you going to do for me?” necessary? You guys think players like seeing this kind of shite? Don’t pay if you don’t want. But please stop making LSU look like a program who doesn’t give a frick and actively chastises people who do lol. We are better than that.
calm down Nancy , it’s a message board
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38099 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:10 am to
I don’t mind people being themselves and a little razzing here and there. But doing it about this subject is pretty stupid. We want people to contribute. Even if you’re not contributing yourself. So please. Shut the frick up.
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
21190 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:06 am to
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 11:07 am
Posted by BayouBaw84
Member since Oct 2016
3259 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:09 am to
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The school does not fund NIL they can’t
The school profits from the product on the field but they aren’t allowed to contribute to get the product? Look how stupid that is.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29661 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 8:57 am to
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If one of the donors

Be a donor. Most (even students) waste more money at Starbucks in a week than give to LSU in a year. That’s the issue. I give to the college of engineering, TAF and now to the collective every year.
I refuse to give less to the college of engineering so I split now between TAF and the collective. I’m on a fixed income and have been for many years now. Yes it has been out of extra for the most part but it is part of our budget. What will never get cut is donating to the school that I owe so much.
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