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re: New Baseball Facility is fiya...
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:16 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:16 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:Except I didn’t. I declined to donate. At least you’re consistently WRONG.
Ok so the point of this was to tell us you bought a plaque.
quote:Good thing, too. Because I won’t. Your “argument” is so poorly thought out it’s become humorous.
My argument is that it isn’t necessary for you to buy a plaque in order for us to get seat backs.
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Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:26 pm to LSURussian
quote:
We do? Link??
Oh so you are going to play semantics with “private donations” You have clearly stated about 5 times in this thread that season ticket holders or fans in some way are going to have to pay more than they currently are to get seat backs.
You going to deny that?
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:31 pm to WaWaWeeWa
A private donor =/= season ticket holders pay required “contributions” in order to buy season tickets.
That probably doesn’t compute to you with your limited knowledge but it is a clear distinction. It’s not semantics.
That probably doesn’t compute to you with your limited knowledge but it is a clear distinction. It’s not semantics.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:39 pm to LSURussian
Yeah, the lack of chairs throughout the stadium annoys me when I see others in the SEC have it.
I do prefer our color on the chairs we do have.
still such a nice stadium
ole miss has chairs throughout i believe
I do prefer our color on the chairs we do have.
still such a nice stadium
ole miss has chairs throughout i believe
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:39 pm to LSURussian
quote:
A private donor =/= season ticket holders pay required “contributions” in order to buy season tickets.
You know what the guy meant, but you keep playing this “I’m smarter than you” game.
Private donations, TAF contributions, is it really that different?
Frick you and your elitist attitude. You think because you have season tickets in the grandstand that your opinion matters more than anyone else here?
Frick
You
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:44 pm to WaWaWeeWa
My “elitist attitude” comes with a full dose of reality that there is no such thing as a free lunch.
Unlike you who believes everything is free because “they” have enough money to pay for something you want.
Unlike you who believes everything is free because “they” have enough money to pay for something you want.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:47 pm to LSURussian
Sounds like lsu needs to earmark some of their yearly budget for it. Increase outfield seat prices by 10% to help pay for some of it. Hell, just increase season ticket prices 10% across the board to get it done
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:54 pm to josh336
quote:Neither one of those increase options would be enough to amortize the cost either via a bank loan or a bond issue.
Increase outfield seat prices by 10% to help pay for some of it. Hell, just increase season ticket prices 10% across the board to get it done
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:54 pm to LSURussian
No it’s because you heard Alleva told Paul he had to raise the money for a workout facility. So now you think you know exactly how everything works.
I know nothing is free. But not every upgrade in amenities needs another “contribution” for a program that nets plenty of profit every year. And because LSU baseball “only” makes 300k doesn’t mean they can never spend more than 300k on an upgrade.
I know nothing is free. But not every upgrade in amenities needs another “contribution” for a program that nets plenty of profit every year. And because LSU baseball “only” makes 300k doesn’t mean they can never spend more than 300k on an upgrade.
quote:
LSU generated $145.4 million in revenue for 2018, down from $147.7 from 2017, and spent around $137.5 million in expenses to come out ahead by $7.97 million. Comparatively, LSU had a net gain of around $16 million 2017 fiscal year
Posted on 5/18/19 at 10:05 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Financial math is not your thing. Just admit it.
Baseball is not the only sport that has been getting or still needs upgraded facilities. The new scoreboard was the latest upgrade to Alex Box and it didn’t require increased funding. But the proposed second outfield scoreboard in right field that was planned was scrapped this year because of a lack of funding.
But that new scoreboard that was built cost a fraction of what renovating the bleachers and replacing the bench seats with 100% chairback seats would cost.
I’ve heard renovating and configuring the seating in the PMAC to include club seating sections has a much higher priority than renovating and upgrading the seating at Alex Box. The reality is 100% of the non-student area seats in Alex Box are sold every year to season ticket holders. And there is a long waiting list for season tickets. Why spend millions of dollars upgrading seats if all of the seats are sold out anyway? That’s the philosophy of the athletic department and no amount of entitled, keyboard warriors bitching on a message board will change it.
I’m curious, how much financial support do you give to LSU baseball every season? My guess is it’s $0.00.
Baseball is not the only sport that has been getting or still needs upgraded facilities. The new scoreboard was the latest upgrade to Alex Box and it didn’t require increased funding. But the proposed second outfield scoreboard in right field that was planned was scrapped this year because of a lack of funding.
But that new scoreboard that was built cost a fraction of what renovating the bleachers and replacing the bench seats with 100% chairback seats would cost.
I’ve heard renovating and configuring the seating in the PMAC to include club seating sections has a much higher priority than renovating and upgrading the seating at Alex Box. The reality is 100% of the non-student area seats in Alex Box are sold every year to season ticket holders. And there is a long waiting list for season tickets. Why spend millions of dollars upgrading seats if all of the seats are sold out anyway? That’s the philosophy of the athletic department and no amount of entitled, keyboard warriors bitching on a message board will change it.
I’m curious, how much financial support do you give to LSU baseball every season? My guess is it’s $0.00.
This post was edited on 5/18/19 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 5/18/19 at 10:36 pm to LSURussian
quote:
Why spend millions of dollars upgrading seats if all of the seats are sold out anyway? That’s the philosophy of the athletic department and no amount of entitled, keyboard warriors bitching on a message board will change it.
That’s fine. The argument here is wether or not that is the correct philosophy. I don’t think it is, you obviously disagree. It’s a matter of opinion.
quote:
I’m curious, how much financial support do you give to LSU baseball every season? My guess is it’s $0.00.
I would be willing to bet it’s close to the same if not more than you, but that’s really irrelevant to the conversation. You think the amount of money you donate makes your opinion worth more than others.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 10:40 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:It is if the person bitching the most about making renovations is unwilling to have any skin in the game paying for the renovations. Like you are.
You think the amount of money you donate makes your opinion worth more than others.
quote:And I’m willing to bet you’d lose your bet.
I would be willing to bet it’s close to the same if not more than you,
Posted on 5/18/19 at 10:55 pm to LSURussian
Russian: I appreciate your support of LSU Baseball as well as the others who ponied up to build the new facilities. I split season tickets with another couple and we sit under the roof but we are not able to contribute much past the tradition fees.
Any shot we can get that new video board for the right field for 2020? Should be a bit smaller than the big board I would think.
Any shot we can get that new video board for the right field for 2020? Should be a bit smaller than the big board I would think.
This post was edited on 5/18/19 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 5/18/19 at 10:56 pm to LSURussian
quote:
It is if the person bitching the most about making renovations is unwilling to have any skin in the game paying for the renovations. Like you are.
I honestly don’t care about the bleachers. It doesn’t effect me. But I think the stadium and fan experience should stay on par with the rest of the SEC. And we disagree that every amenities upgrade requires a contribution event from ticket holders that are already paying a good amount of money. A small increase in ticket prices would probably get it done if absolutely necessary
Just out of curiosity. What is your estimate of cost to add seatbacks?
Posted on 5/18/19 at 11:22 pm to WaWaWeeWa
IMO the issue with Alex Box is the cheap arse high school aluminum bleachers. My family and I made the 1,000 mile trip from Virginia to Baton Rouge in April and we went to 3 games. We sat in the bleacher section in front of the LSU bull pen for 2 games and the other in left field. The bleachers suck! They move and make noise and are very uncomfortable for people of all sizes. It is very obvious that LSU went the cheap route with this huge mistake.
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 10:01 am
Posted on 5/18/19 at 11:24 pm to GeorgeWest
quote:I asked Coach Mainieri about that last month and he just shrugged and shook his head. I interpreted that to mean it’s dead for now.
Any shot we can get that new video board for the right field for 2020?
Posted on 5/18/19 at 11:36 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:Find in this thread a post I’ve made that said “every amenities upgrade requires a contribution event from ticket holders.” You can’t do it.
And we disagree that every amenities upgrade requires a contribution event from ticket holders that are already paying a good amount of money.
I said a renovation of the stadium to upgrade the bleacher bench seating to chair back seating throughout the stadium would cost mulitple millions of dollars and a source of funding would be needed to do it.
If you know how it can be done using the existing $300,000 annual surplus generated by baseball, maybe you should meet with the new AD and advise him how to do it. I’m sure he would appreciate your input.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 12:09 am to LSURussian
LSU has the money to do whatever they want to do, but they do what they do with two big things in mind.
One, they have funnel millions to the university and two; whatever they do for the “man’s” sport they have to do for the women”s sport.
Baseball got a nice addition and so did Softball. When the Box was built they built Tiger Park.
I’m guessing chairback seats are not a priority or we would have them throughout. We’d have an over hang throughout if they wanted it, but they have other priorities.
And Russian is right, they sell all the seats; there’s no impetus to improve the seats.
But look at the alcohol question, they are all in because it affects the bottom line whereas chairbacks wouldn’t.
One, they have funnel millions to the university and two; whatever they do for the “man’s” sport they have to do for the women”s sport.
Baseball got a nice addition and so did Softball. When the Box was built they built Tiger Park.
I’m guessing chairback seats are not a priority or we would have them throughout. We’d have an over hang throughout if they wanted it, but they have other priorities.
And Russian is right, they sell all the seats; there’s no impetus to improve the seats.
But look at the alcohol question, they are all in because it affects the bottom line whereas chairbacks wouldn’t.
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 11:23 am
Posted on 5/19/19 at 12:14 am to tigerbait2010
Seat backs make things uncomfortable, and constrictive for fat people. How many fat people attend baseball games?
There is you answer.
There is you answer.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 12:25 am to WaWaWeeWa
IMO, at least part of the outfield foul line bleachers could be rebuilt as chairback seats with an increased ticket price and a TAF surcharge. I believe most season ticket holders in these areas would pay the additional surcharge/price to have a better seat experience. Those that don't want to pay the increases could be moved to the remaining bleacher seats.
These surcharges and price increases would certainly pay for a substantial portion of the amortization of the bond issue needed to pay the construction costs.
These surcharges and price increases would certainly pay for a substantial portion of the amortization of the bond issue needed to pay the construction costs.
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