re: Negativity on coach O

I’d take Luke over him even. Honestly. Laziest hire in LSU history.

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this has been one of the worst offseasons i can recall

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maybe because it started with a game LSU had no business losing, firing an OC it had no business firing, and basically fell arse backward into a QB and a CB, and had several arrests sprinkled in.

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Kickoff is 4 days away and IMO it's time to turn the page to see what's going to happen next.

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Honestly...I'll turn the page and stop bringing ths shite up the minute guys stop blowing Orgeron on here and pretending last year didn't happen.

I have still never started a thread about Orgeron, his hiring or anything in between. I counter-punch when it's warranted. If no one wants to discuss Troy, then people need to stop asking stupid questions like, "How come no one respects our good ole boy coach, y'all?"

That kind of invites a response...right?

We comin

From SB Nation...

Interim coaches are expected to win immediately, and Orgeron kept the job with the idea that his recruiting ability would help LSU compete with Alabama on the trail. Hasn’t happened so far. But LSU also signed him to a large guaranteed contract, and this is only his second full year.

Godfrey: Troy, Matt Canada, and the debacle at Mississippi State notwithstanding, Orgeron still has the total support of athletic director Joe Alleva. Eight wins is the assumed floor. New/old offensive coordinator Steve Ensminger showed promise in 2016 and needs to deliver a league-quality passing game immediately, to stave off critics.

Bud: If LSU is 7-5, I think he should be let go. But should does not mean will. Since Alleva is tied to him, Orgeron would probably get a lame duck 2019 if he were to go 7-5.

But 7-5 would mean no recruiting momentum and that Alabama, Auburn, and Texas A&M put distance between their rosters and LSU’s. For an interim promotion, the proof-of-concept year needs to be Year 2, not Year 3.

Bud is right. Lame duck is a bad situation. Just look at the miles debacle after 2015.

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My point is even with Eli, ole miss couldn’t achieve seccg or nc, freeze had to cheat to get success there, it’s a very hard program to build and win at

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While that may be true, it is equally as hard to fail there as spectacularly as O did.

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I'm not saying Coach O is the answer, but he isn't the problem.

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He's a huge part of it.

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Again, Coach O was plan z when our home run hires didnt pan out.

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That would make him plan c. Which is the other huge part of the problem.

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I think he has done a great job under the circumstances.

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Thanks for telling everyone you're content with mediocrity.

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We could have gave up after the troy game but all they did was win out (except for bama).

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Did you accidentally or intentionally forget the bowl game? Doesn't really matter, it happened either way.

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I know all about his Ole miss record but let's put this in perspective. Ole miss over the past 20 years have been relevant twice. Once when they had a number draft pick two time super bowl MVP QB and the other time when the got caught with recruiting violations

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And as has been pointed out several times, Orgeron is far and away the worst coach they've ever had. It's not close. The coaches immediately before and after him both led the program to much more success than he did. So congratulations. You just further proved the point that ed Orgeron is an incredibly terrible head football coach.

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May?

"Upon arriving at Ole Miss, Orgeron attempted to bring USC's passing game coordinator, Lane Kiffin, with him as the new offensive coordinator, but Kiffin opted to stay with the Trojans.

Entering the 2005 season, Orgeron had hoped to bring a USC-style offense to the Southeastern Conference (SEC), but found limited success. The University of Mississippi's offense finished the season ranked 111th out of 117 Division I-A schools, in total offense; 115th in scoring; and, 116th in rushing ... as a result of the offensive woes, the 2005 team struggled and finished the season with a record of three wins and eight losses—the Rebels' worst record since 1987.


In response to the results of his first season, Orgeron fired offensive coordinator Noel Mazzone, replacing him with former University of Miami offensive coordinator Dan Werner. Also, Orgeron hired Art Kehoe, the longtime offensive line coach at the University of Miami; both assistants had just been fired by the University of Miami. In 2006, Ole' Miss finished the season ranked #108 in scoring offense, #111 in total offense, and #112 in passing offense.

Orgeron's second recruiting class in February 2006 was successful, acquiring the written pledges of a national Top 15 signing class. He followed that with the 32nd ranked recruiting class in February 2007.

At Ole Miss, Orgeron recorded only two wins against teams with winning records (the 2005 and 2007 Memphis teams, which both finished at 7–5)—the fewest among active SEC coaches at the time. Until the 2007 season, he enjoyed the public support of The University of Mississippi's chancellor Robert Khayat and other administrators with oversight of the football program, including Athletic Director Pete Boone.

In 2007, Ole Miss finished the season 0–8 against fellow SEC teams, and 3–9 overall. It was the program's first winless (conference) season since 1982.

On November 24, 2007, after Ole Miss blew a 14-point fourth-quarter lead to in-state rival Mississippi State in the season finale, Orgeron was fired."

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think O is the absolute worse

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Worst, not worse

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Is he being judged on his time at ole piss?

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Yes. But only insofar as it proves he should not have been hired here.

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Is it the lose to Troy? That non conference streak was destined to be broken, why not the night we only had like 2 dline men.

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No, no, no. It was not destined. It was ridiculous. Maybe the worst loss in LSU history.

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Yes I didn’t like the meddling with Canada, firing him after a yr then hire SE, but I think O knows this has to work or he is done quickly.

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What happened to O's promise to hire the best and let them coach?

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That question was, do you think you are better than many think you are.

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Legit question. No coach would give an honest answer. But if he is not concerned, really concerned, about losses to UA, UGA, AU, UM, TA&M, Moo State and UF he would be delusional.