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re: NCAA will allow athletes to be compensated per CNBC

Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:22 pm to
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:22 pm to
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Happens in the nfl. Might as well get used to it now


This is the dumbest take I’ve seen yet. The whole point of CFB is it isn’t professionalism.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:22 pm to
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Of course they can.
The schools can't once these states continue passing these laws, which I clarified in my post.
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Players aren’t getting paid for public appearances right now. Players are still getting handshake deals.
So handshake deals under the table are good for the NCAA, but getting paid for public appearances will be outrageous?

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Repeating that’s its already happening over and over again doesn’t make it a fact.
Ok, it's not happening.

Nevermind this huge FBI scandal in CBB, it's just not happening, right?
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 1:23 pm
Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
8125 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:23 pm to
I would expect once more info comes out it wont be as good as those wanting it hoped for and wont be as bad as those against it thought it would be.

One way to help keep it away from recruiting is not allow freshman to receive until they have been on campus for one year.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:23 pm to
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And what happens when the 5* Freshman who’s getting all the attention gets paid more than a sophomore or junior who’s started for a year or two? You think these 18-21 year olds are going to handle this well?

Derek Stingley could certainly make more than Derrick Dillon right now but that's just the way it is in life. Also, positions like left guard usually don't carry near the star power of a RB, QB or WR. I won't be surprised if the NCAA tries to put a 100k cap on it or something.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112622 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:24 pm to
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And what happens when the 5* Freshman who’s getting all the attention gets paid more than a sophomore or junior who’s started for a year or two? You think these 18-21 year olds are going to handle this well?
What do you mean what happens?

What happens when Zion makes more money than the guy drafted late in the 2nd round?

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This opens a can of worms that’s going to cause problems at every level if it’s a free market.
Problems how?
Posted by HappyTigerDay
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2011
880 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:24 pm to
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The whole point of CFB is it isn’t professionalism


That is not the point of college football.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112622 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:24 pm to
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The whole point of CFB is it isn’t professionalism.
And that died a loooooooong time ago when it became a multi billion dollar business.

The whole point of CFB 100 years ago wasn't to make oodles of money. That IS the whole point of it now.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:25 pm to
Horrible decision that will cause a shockwave of unintended consequences.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112622 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:26 pm to
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One way to help keep it away from recruiting is not allow freshman to receive until they have been on campus for one year.

Again, once these laws start coming to more states, and they will, schools will legally not be able to do this.

And if the NCAA wants to enforce it, their won't be any schools in the NCAA, and no more billions of dollars in revenue. Meaning, they'll have to deal with it.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50703 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:26 pm to
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The schools can't once these states continue passing these laws, which I clarified in my post.


Eventually they will have to decide if they are staying in the NCAA or creating an independent sports association.

Good luck getting the logistics of that correct.

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So handshake deals under the table are good for the NCAA, but getting paid for public appearances will be outrageous?


No one has said handshake deals are good, but they’re better than a free market system that’s going to essentially become pay for play.

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Ok, it's not happening.


Speaking specifically to players getting paid for they’re likeness, it hasn’t happened.

Repeating “its already happening” over and over again doesn’t change that, and is bullshite.
Posted by lucki98
Thibodaux, la
Member since Aug 2014
808 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:27 pm to
How much cam newton received under the table? Albert means? Hundreds of thousands just to sign a letter of intend. Just imagine to market a business
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112622 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:27 pm to
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Eventually they will have to decide if they are staying in the NCAA or creating an independent sports association.

Good luck getting the logistics of that correct.
No, the NCAA will have to decide if they want to make billions or not make billions. They've already shown you step one today. They're taking the money.

you think the NCAA is going to turn down billions over this?
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No one has said handshake deals are good, but they’re better than a free market system that’s going to essentially become pay for play.

How?

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Speaking specifically to players getting paid for they’re likeness, it hasn’t happened.

Repeating “its already happening” over and over again doesn’t change that, and is bull shite.
Never said they are getting paid for their likeness. I said they are getting paid because...they are getting paid.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:28 pm to
Ohhhh. Now we can fire em and get new players when they don’t pan out. screw a 4 year commitment. And screw the concept of equality among teammates
Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
8125 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:28 pm to
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Again, once these laws start coming to more states, and they will, schools will legally not be able to do this


But you are assuming that these laws wont be modified or nullified once the NCAA allows a path to players being paid for likeness.

There will and have to be limits placed on things like this. Also the NCAA would have a fair case in the govt stepping into a private club and dictating how that club must operate.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29855 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:29 pm to
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If they don’t cap

surely they will?

need a cap, reporting of each payment, and some other very specific criteria around this.

obviously they'll have to report it as income for tax purposes, or there would be hell to pay
Posted by HerkFlyer
Auburn, AL
Member since Jan 2018
3211 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:29 pm to
Saban's car dealership is about to have more billboards with players on them than Gordon.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:31 pm to
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Now we can fire em and get new players when they don’t pan out. screw a 4 year commitment. And screw the concept of equality among teammates


Scholarships are one year as it is now and that doesn't happen much.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112622 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:32 pm to
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Ohhhh. Now we can fire em and get new players when they don’t pan out. screw a 4 year commitment.

Pretty sure schollies are year to year and they can do that now, no?

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And screw the concept of equality among teammates
Why do you think that exists now? And why should it exist?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:32 pm to
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Saban's car dealership is about to have more billboards with players on them than Gordon.



shite, didn't even think about this. The actual head coach will be paying players out of his own pocket in this case and it will be above board

What a time to be alive.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112622 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:33 pm to
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Also the NCAA would have a fair case in the govt stepping into a private club and dictating how that club must operate.
How?

None of these laws are dictating the NCAA to do anything. Technically, these laws have nothing to do with the NCAA, they're between the athlete and the school. I don't see ho they'd have any case here.
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