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re: Narcisse: “They wanted a quarterback who was ready to play.”

Posted on 8/15/18 at 12:05 pm to
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23077 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

Looks like he was worried he wasn't going to get the development he wanted


Please explain how you extrapolated that from his comment.
Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
56302 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 12:05 pm to
Name a coach that wants a QB starting who isn’t ready to play
Posted by epbart
new york city
Member since Mar 2005
2926 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

I'm going to need a little more breakdown.


Sounds like he wants to be developed and wasn't getting that here


Impossible to know for sure without insider knowledge, but this is a reasonable take, and I can see why he might think this-- right or wrong.

He acknowledges they had packages for him to play. I've seen the speculation on here that these packages were just him running the wildcat... Not sure if true. (he did have a similar # of pass attempts in last scrimmage as everyone, but that's not definitive either and may have been designed that way to lead all QBs to feel footing was equal.) If his actual packages seemed more run heavy than the plays he ran during the scrimmage, he might've felt that he was being pushed into a gimmick, change of pace, wildcat role instead of being in contention to be groomed as a proper starter.

The coaches may have viewed the same packages as a way to get his feet wet and give him time to grow into a broader role. He might've felt it threatened to marginalize him. It's all speculation.
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
11239 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

Or he knows he needs to improve and doesn't feel like he'll get the time/attention here.


Maybe he was told, or under the impression for a couple of years, that he and Brennan would battle for the job leading up to the ‘18 season.

Suddenly, Burrow enters the picture and he’s getting most of the reps. The other 3 are fighting for scraps. He wasn’t getting the reps in practice, so he thinks he didn’t have a chance to develop.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84991 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

Sounds like he wants to be developed and wasn't getting that here.


No it doesn’t. Sounds like he’s not ready to play at the level that LSU needs or the coaches want him to at this time and someone else on the roster was.


They're not mutually exclusive.

You should play the best QB, no one is suggesting otherwise, including Narcisee. You also want to get better and get the reps required to do that. If you're 3rd string behind guys with 2 and 3 years of eligibility left, you probably aren't going to get those reps and that attention.

Both can be true.
Posted by tigbit
Member since Jun 2011
2800 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 12:09 pm to
They were trying to do this, but NCAA didn't like the choice.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84991 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

Looks like he was worried he wasn't going to get the development he wanted

Please explain how you extrapolated that from his comment.


If you listened to the actual interview you'd know he wanted to be viewed as more than simply a wildcat guy. He also said he and the coaches were going in different directions.

Extrapolating that he didn't think he would get the development/attention he wanted seems pretty straightforward, no?
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72683 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

to get him to 8 wins or more. I think 8 is his magic number this year to keep the administration off his back




miles COULD get us 8 wins! or 9!

what a shitshow of epic proportions

O was supposed to WIN TITLES.
Posted by jmon
Mandeville, LA
Member since Oct 2010
8418 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

Or he knows he needs to improve and doesn't feel like he'll get the time/attention here.


Definitely not this year, too much at stake!
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84991 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

It really comes down to this: In a “I want it, and I want it now” generation, Narcisse didn’t want to wait his turn.


Not a single intelligent person in ANY generation would stay in a situation they felt would hinder their development. That's an asinine take.
Posted by km
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5653 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 12:15 pm to
That's why you recruit two QBs every year. Ask Southern Cal, ask Georgia.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57704 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 12:16 pm to
Narcisse wants to play now and wasn’t as ready as Burrow. It’s as simple as that. He did not want to have to wait.
Posted by ThePaleHorse
Houston
Member since Jul 2011
807 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

At some point they have to attempt to develop a QB.


At some point you have to realize you have to wait your turn if you arent ready to play. Brennan seems to be ok with that.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43851 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

Please explain how you extrapolated that from his comment.


Because the cherry picked comment in the OP isn't the only thing that Narcisse said about his decision.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14418 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

O is feeling the heat.

Do you have any links to coaches that don't play QBs that are ready to play and give them the best chance to win vs a QB that is developing and "might be good" someday?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84991 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

At some point you have to realize you have to wait your turn if you arent ready to play. Brennan seems to be ok with that.


Brennan is also likely getting the 2nd most reps. "Waiting your turn" is a lot easier when you're getting the attention necessary to develop the way you want.

I'm not knocking the staff, there are only so many reps to go around, but criticizing Narcisse makes no sense either.
Posted by JAB528
The Mexican Ocean
Member since Jun 2012
16870 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

Yep, we need to hire a QB guru to the shadow staff. I wonder if Matt Flynn is interested? Just a thought.


What makes you think Matt Flynn is a qb guru from a coaching/analyst standpoint?
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

Impossible to know for sure without insider knowledge, but this is a reasonable take, and I can see why he might think this-- right or wrong.


Well we're all fricking guessing when it all boils down. Don't know why my suggestion got so much heat.
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 12:34 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

At some point you have to realize you have to wait your turn if you arent ready to play. Brennan seems to be ok with that.


Brennan's a better QB right now than Narcisse. How is Narcisse ever going to pass him if he doesn't get good QB instruction? It doesn't just magically happen because he wants it to happen.
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 12:36 pm
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

Sounds like he wants to be developed and wasn't getting that here


Sounds like he wanted to play and he wasn’t t the best qb.




But hey, you sell it however it makes you feel better.
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