re: Name Recognition vs. Napier

Can we stop with the Napier talk? He beat Nicholls by 3. Georgia Southern by 8. He has 1 "quality win" which is Iowa State. They got stomped by UT. This isn't our coach of the future.

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Ummmm Dabo fired him.

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Dabo fired him because Dabo was about to be fired.

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Honestly the only thing I hold against Napier is that he hasn't done it at a power 5 school.

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Of course you’d rather have him be more proven at the P5 level, but I just think with salaries where they are, it’s gonna be hard to throw so much extra cash at the few “sure things” to get them to move. Because the “sure things” are already making a ton of money at places where they are obviously, currently winning.

Football isn’t like baseball where the salaries are low enough you can double a guy like Jay Johnson’s salary and give his assistants a $100,000+ per raise. Let’s say Woodward goes after Dabo. He’d have to offer him something like $15 million/year for 10 years to get him to even pick up the phone. That’s 50% more than what he gave Jimbo and everybody laughs at that now (I personally don’t). And Jimbo is an expert on one side of the ball, unlike Dabo, which most of our fans seem to want as a prerequisite.

Speaking of Jimbo, he’s a proven winner, friends of Woodward, and would probably leave A&M for LSU. He’d be a “safe” hire. But boring as frick and with a very limited ceiling. I would MUCH rather take the calculated risk of a Napier or Aranda who at least have the chance of being actual home runs over the long haul rather than merely seeming like home runs (to some) at the press conference, but wind up producing uninspiring results.

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You don’t need to pay Napier some ridiculous amount of money either… can get him for cheap.

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Same logic was used when arguing for O.

You get what you pay for

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Convince me Napier doesn’t have the most potential upside + least potential downside of any remotely realistic name dropped to date.

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Napier and Fleck, IMO, are the two great risk reward names out there. Both have proven to be high integrity individuals with the ability to build programs. The job Napier has done at UL with the limited resources and talent on that roster is almost a fricking miracle. Fleck has done similar things at Minnesota and turned a dude who wouldn’t have even been considered an NFL prospect into a lock to be drafted, possibly on day one, at QB. Fickell is a similar story. Those are the guys I want. The ones who have that upward trajectory and have built programs from nothing and limited talent. No the James Franklins of the world, not some dude coming out of retirement, and not some big personality that’s in their 4th stop as a HC. Gime the humble, hungry, program building mfer that can build this program into a dynasty that rivals Saban and Dabo.

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James Franklin is a much better choice than Napier or Kiffin

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Well sure he is. But discounting our Title IX issues and his involvement with covering up (or looking the way) regarding rape at Vanderbilt, he was born in Pennsylvania, grew up in Pennsylvania, went to college in Pennsylvania, has a wife and 2 daughters that have now been a part of the Happy Valley, Pennsylvania community for 8 years now, and he has Pennsylvania State University undefeated and ranked #4 in the country.

He makes $5.5 million a year, which PSU would surely raise by a couple million if they got in a bidding war for his services. How much money do you think we’d have to offer him for him to take this job and do you think that figure is realistic? You win a National Championship at Penn State and they will let you stay for 40 years coaching in diapers from the booth in your 80s, build a statue for you, and vehemently defend you for turning a blind eye to pedophilia right under your nose for 3 decades. We’re about to fire our coach less than 2 years removed from not just a national championship, but probably the greatest season in the history of college football.

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Another thing that should never be considered when evaluating the future coach of LSU or any major program.

The people loved O in South Lafourche. Doesn't mean he is the right man for the job

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Man, I didn’t say that in the way that he’s “one of us”. I’m saying that people in Lafayette have gravitated towards the culture he’s built. They respect him.

No one respects Shrimp boat.

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Find a metric other than... so & so had a good year at a school I know goes to big bowls sometimes.

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Not sure LSU has really done that much. Definitely not with O. Not really with Miles or Saban.

Napier will build the program the right way.

My only concern as a UL fan is his in-game coaching. He's not that good. And I'd dare to say is border line bad.

But that can be fixed.

Napier is a safe hire with no baggage that could also come at a better price.
I think Napier wants it too. He did not jump at South Carolina or Auburn last year and I feel it’s because he knew O’s days were numbered.