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My personal story - Miles vs. Saban and the irony

Posted on 11/7/10 at 11:28 am
Posted by lsugumbeaux
Member since Nov 2007
38 posts
Posted on 11/7/10 at 11:28 am
I feel compelled to write this. Easier after a win of this magnitude, of course, but here it is.

Many years ago, Saban - while at LSU - was recruiting a player at my high school. I was thrilled to meet him and asked him if I could show him something in my office that I was extremely proud of. He walked into my office and I began to describe the meaning behind a picture frame displayed proudly on my wall. I told the short-version story of how my dad, my brother and myself attended the LSU-Alabama game when LSU defeated Alabama for the first time in Tiger stadium in 30 years (The Irony). My brother ordered a picture from Tiger Rag showing an aerial view of Tiger Stadium and a huge arrow showing where I sat with my Dad and Brother. My ticket stub was framed with the picture. My brother gave it to me as a Christmas present. All tiger fans, I am sure, can appreciate this special moment when you can fondly remember an LSU game with your Dad and family members. I told Coach Saban this quick story and how special of a moment that was for me. I basically thanked him. He looked at the picture and without saying a word...walked out of my office. I felt as if I was just waisting his time.

Fast forward to a couple years ago. It was summertime and I was at a baseball field watching my son play ball. Word spread that at the park that extremely hot day was Coach Les Miles. Sure enough, he was there watching his son play baseball. He was wearing shorts, a soaking wet t-shirt and had his shoes off, feet propped up on the chain-link fence. I waited for his son's game to finish, and then approached him, greeted him, and made a small request. You see, it was Father's Day, and I asked Les Miles that if I got my dad on the phone, would he wish my dad a "happy father's day?" Coach Miles looked at me and with intensity said, "Get him on the phone." I began dialing. My dad answered, and I said, "Dad, someone wants to talk to you." I handed Coach Miles the phone and he introduced himself, wished my dad a Happy Fathers Day, and went on to hold a conversation with him.

This morning I personally understand why the players want to play for coach Miles. For the same reason that I personally want him to succeed...because my father and I mattered to him on that extremely hot and humid summer day.

I want the Tigers to win and I know his job is to make sure that happens. But, no matter what happens - win or lose, eating grass or not - I will always be a fan of Les Miles, the man.
Posted by tigertotiger
Member since Dec 2007
162 posts
Posted on 11/7/10 at 11:31 am to
Great post ... thanks for sharing
Posted by LSU Fan SLU Grad
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2006
4893 posts
Posted on 11/7/10 at 11:32 am to
Cool story, bro. Doesn't really surprise me about Saban.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 11/7/10 at 11:33 am to
saban hates that kind of stuff...which is why he put in his contract with Bama that he only had to go to a few booster/alumni functions every year. he's extremely driven, and probably a miserable man for the most part
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
6631 posts
Posted on 11/7/10 at 11:34 am to
Good story. I have been a LM fan and supporter from the get go. I will never understand the love for Saban (over miles). Little Nicky will never be the man LM is off the field... and there is enough proof that Satan is not the man LM is ON THE FIELD EITHER.

LSU is damn lucky to have a coach like Miles
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2005
17848 posts
Posted on 11/7/10 at 11:34 am to
Saban is an arrogant and pompous SOB midget.

Posted by Fat Man
Gotta Luv Cov ... ington
Member since Jan 2006
7057 posts
Posted on 11/7/10 at 11:35 am to
Cool story, Bro.

Seriously, it's a cool story. I believe is succintly captures the essence of the two men.

And your conclusion, players want to play for Miles, is accurate. The special bond between coach and players is becoming more evident with each passing week.
Posted by TigerPawsfl
Gulf Breeze, Fl
Member since Nov 2008
78 posts
Posted on 11/7/10 at 11:35 am to
WOW! Kind of says it all. Thanks for a great story! Maybe time for the Negatigers to eat something other than grass!
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33940 posts
Posted on 11/7/10 at 11:37 am to
quote:

I will never understand the love for Saban (over miles). Little Nicky will never be the man LM is off the field


I think that is a little bit harsh.

My take is that Saban is largely misunderstood. Louisianans have a face-to-face, sit down and talk about it kind of culture. Saban doesn't care for that stuff. He is all business and bottom line. Relationships are a means to an end. To Miles, relationships are the end.

Which is why Miles fits in better here.
Posted by LSUFan760
Member since Feb 2010
342 posts
Posted on 11/7/10 at 11:37 am to
Great Story
Posted by pitbull20
Somewhere close... real close
Member since Oct 2003
7762 posts
Posted on 11/7/10 at 11:38 am to
Their are countless stories of things like this showing the difference between Miles and Saban.

Saban is no doubt a great Football coach, but to me it means much more to be a great Man.
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
30290 posts
Posted on 11/7/10 at 11:44 am to
Great story, and it is why even some of his doubters like myself, have always had a strong want for LM to hold his own vs Saban, Meyer,etc..

He and his wife Kathy are totally genuine and all class. Also, unlike the aforementioned Saban, whom only made PMAC and Box,etc..game appearances when recruits were in town and tow. The Miles clan are LSU Athletics supporters of their own accord, and can be spotted at LSU games.

I do have also add, it seems Saban has mellowed with the years, and has become a bit more genuine and reflective. Though still flawed, he seems to be improving in this regard?
Posted by atchafalaya
Bayou Chene, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
1530 posts
Posted on 11/7/10 at 11:46 am to
this is a great story and i have one to add. note that i am not a crowton fan and have been bitter about miles keeping him, but i am now confused on that. nonetheless, heregoes:

Note: i have shared this with rant once before.

Nick's last year: I was in BTR for a week visiting friends and ran into NS coming out of Gino's. Me: "hi coach Saban, glad you are here." Nothing.


Les Miles first year: I flew in right before hurricane. Me and my buddy from LSU law and my wife having coffee outside of CC's coffee shop on corporate by movie theater. A small girl in window making funny faces at us. We thought it was cute, we interacted with her, made faces back, etc. Got up to leave and walking to car. A man comes out in LSU jacket with woman who is obviously his wife. And the girl. I recognize him but frick, man, I can't place him, he is just really familiar. I think maybe he is someone who i met through my dad, so I turn around and walk back to him as he is coming out and I hold out my hand to introduce myself and I say, "hi, i'm so and so and you look really familiar. have i met you or do you work with my dad?" and he says, "well hi son, I don't think so. Les, Miles, happy to meet you." and i am immediately saying to myself holy shite what a douche bag move I just made and he saves me by saying the following: "you know, "so and so (my name)," you are very fortunate to live here where people are so nice and families just can go hang out in a coffee shop and meet people, its a wonderful place and a blessing. My family loves it here and we are grateful to you. I'm sure we will meet again." and thats was that, he walked off. And I just stood there in awe and like the dumbass I was (of course caveat, I lived in DC then and wasn't keeping up with the new coach's appearance and who he really was, etc, I was still reeling from saban).

I think that sums it up. Thats the real les miles, when he first came to lsu, and i think he is pretty much still that man.

fwiw
Posted by tiger7166
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
2620 posts
Posted on 11/7/10 at 11:49 am to
Kids play for Les Miles because he lets them play and puts them in oppurtunites to be successful.

Kids play for Saban to win championships. They learn the proccess and if they follow it they will win.

That's my take. Which also explains why Miles often looks foolish with his calls on the feild.
Posted by dsbroussard
Lafayette Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
252 posts
Posted on 11/7/10 at 11:55 am to
BUMP BUMP BUMP. I think everyone on this board should read this. Thanks! I admire his character, winning is not all that makes a football program great.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9928 posts
Posted on 11/7/10 at 11:55 am to
I have heard the same thing from several people who have had personal encounters with both. I read somewhere that Mike Edmonson's had a story like that. Saban isn't dirty, he is just completely self absorbed and arrogant. Les Miles is genuine. Love it or hate it, you just have to eat a little sod every now and then.
Posted by smillerlsu
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2007
248 posts
Posted on 11/7/10 at 11:55 am to
lsugumbeaux, thank you for sharing this story!
Posted by Good Times
Hill top in Tn
Member since Nov 2007
23482 posts
Posted on 11/7/10 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

My personal story - Miles vs. Saban and the irony
BUMP BUMP BUMP. I think everyone on this board should read this. Thanks! I admire his character, winning is not all that makes a football program great.



The more I know about the man the more I love him. Let's let our QB's CONTINUE to mature and let's enjoy the ride.

Thanks for the stories.
This post was edited on 11/7/10 at 12:26 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 11/7/10 at 12:25 pm to
That's a nice story. Thanks for sharing.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36707 posts
Posted on 11/7/10 at 12:30 pm to
This makes me say "who said nice guys can't win???"

Thanks for sharing ... you're just backing up what I already thought about him!!!

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