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re: Most expensive benign cyst in history of sports
Posted on 4/21/26 at 8:26 am to Good Times
Posted on 4/21/26 at 8:26 am to Good Times
quote:
The fact that Nuss was a QB, probably made it easy to misdiagnose the discomfort. The tourque of throwing creating a strain that would pass with a little rest, would be an easy miss.
bullshite. An MRI for another problem I had picked up two cysts on my lower spine.
The fact that he is your star QB, should warrant investigating his condition in more detail.
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 8:26 am to Covingtontiger77
Maybe there will be documentaries done about it and how it led to a dynasty, like the Dolphins doctors/Brees/Saban.
Let's build a dynasty...for 5 years before Kiffin goes back to the NFL!
Let's build a dynasty...for 5 years before Kiffin goes back to the NFL!
Posted on 4/21/26 at 8:26 am to Covingtontiger77
Wait for the lawsuit. Did he get greg brooks jr’d?
Posted on 4/21/26 at 8:30 am to Covingtontiger77
How about what it cost Nuss?
Posted on 4/21/26 at 8:32 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
quote:
If Nuss is healthy...does it change things?
No
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I think we beat Ole Miss at the very least. We had wide open receivers all over the field and he saw them and couldn't make the throws well enough to execute.
Then Ole Miss might not be in the playoffs, Kiffin isn't as hot of a name, LSU might salvage a better season. Who knows who would be coaching where.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 8:45 am to Big4SALTbro
quote:
wonder if LSU might try to clawback some of that 54MM because of Greg brooks and Nuss.
I thought the same thing. Could this be the “cause”. I could see some lawyers looking into this a bit further as Kelly really does have a checkered past with people in his program if you think about it. The kid on the man lift, GB, Now Nuss. Def could argue he’s not one for player safety.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 8:49 am to coonass27
The butterfly effect— if Woodward doesn’t get canned then we don’t get rid of McMahon and hire Wade as well
Posted on 4/21/26 at 8:53 am to Covingtontiger77
Now, imagine thinking Nuss is the first or ONLY athlete at LSU under the BK reign that this occurred to.
More than one transfer left for the way BK handled issues like this.
More than one transfer left for the way BK handled issues like this.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 8:54 am to Alt26
quote:
LSU still had Joe Sloan in charge of the offense. That was the much, MUCH, bigger problem. That offensive approach was awful and no QB, including a healthy Nussmeier would have had any real success in it. Listen to any former player who followed LSU. They will tell you that. If you listened to Hester and Flynn they, nicely, implied the offensive approach was horrible. After BK was ousted they were more direct in speaking about just how bad the design and play calling was. For example, one said "It might help if you have more than 1 and half running plays so the defense doesn't know exactly what it coming every time." Or, "does LSU (i.e. Sloan) know you are allowed to throw the ball over the middle of the field?" This isn't people on the Rant saying that. It's guys who played high level football for years.
I don't disagree at all that Sloan was a massive problem. I think he likely would have been fired at the end of the year even if Nuss was healthy. Side note: take everything Hester says with a grain of salt. He was hyping up the LSU run game all of fall camp talking about how it wouldn't be a problem.
quote:
If you want to reduce BK's failure to one decision, it was the decision to let Denbrock walk in what was ultimately an effort to sign Underwood. BK didn't fully appreciate that recruiting now is really just contract negotiations. It DID NOT matter that LSU invested years and money in building the relationship with Underwood. In the end, the bigger contract offer won out.
I'm not trying to reduce it down to one decision. I think there were several decisions that went into the downfall. But if you asking me if I think that if Nuss were fully healthy that LSU could have gone 9-3 and BK would still be our head coach, I'd probably say yes
Posted on 4/21/26 at 8:59 am to Covingtontiger77
I agree. We all watched the games. Nuss could NOT push the ball down field at all. Our entire offense was quick passes and screens.
With a healthy Nuss, the entire offensive dynamic changes and the playmakers we had can get the ball.
We probably win the majority of games we lost including Ole Miss, Vandy, Bama, and Oklahoma.
With a healthy Nuss, the entire offensive dynamic changes and the playmakers we had can get the ball.
We probably win the majority of games we lost including Ole Miss, Vandy, Bama, and Oklahoma.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 9:09 am to mikelsu15
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I bashed a hole in the drywall at my house when Nuss couldnt’t hit a wide open receiver downfield. So add $36 to the total please.
We really need a thread where we track posts like these for eternity. This is priceless (SWIDT?)
Posted on 4/21/26 at 9:16 am to Covingtontiger77
quote:
Amazing, how much $$ this Nuss cyst cost.
Do you ever think what expectations a 100 mil guaranteed contract might deserve from a Head Coach?
Hell, we have three QBs on the present team better than any of the non starters on Kelly's teams.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 10:33 am to Covingtontiger77
Double counting on the HC pay.
No matter who at the helm it was going to be minus 10-12m/yr for the HC.
No matter who at the helm it was going to be minus 10-12m/yr for the HC.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 11:06 am to Alt26
There was more to LSU football's failure last year than just a cyst.
Howabout the following:
1. An O-line that couldn't block and couldn't protect the QB
2. No backup QB worth a d*m
3. No competent OC
4. Special teams snafu
5. Defense incapable of containing dual threat QBs
6. Head coach checked out early last season
Howabout the following:
1. An O-line that couldn't block and couldn't protect the QB
2. No backup QB worth a d*m
3. No competent OC
4. Special teams snafu
5. Defense incapable of containing dual threat QBs
6. Head coach checked out early last season
Posted on 4/21/26 at 11:19 am to Covingtontiger77
quote:
Amazing this couldn’t get posted in the other 3 threads on the topic.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 11:31 am to Covingtontiger77
Greatest cyst in LSU history right?
I mean if the cyst is not present, Nuss looks a lot better most likely and LSU still has 8-4 Kelly this year.
I mean if the cyst is not present, Nuss looks a lot better most likely and LSU still has 8-4 Kelly this year.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 11:39 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
I disagree of Nuss was healthy the whole season changes
Posted on 4/21/26 at 12:31 pm to HoustonTigerNKaty
quote:Don't you mean Brad Davis, not Bo Davis?
I have heard from multiple folks Denbrock’s departure was directly tied to Bo Davis and his untouchable status for reasons.
Davis was just as responsible for the inept Offense as Sloan!
BTW, has good ole Sylvester been hired anywhere?
Posted on 4/21/26 at 3:49 pm to Alt26
quote:You know what pisses me off the most? A fully healthy Nuss and the OL we had in 2024 (which was mediocre at best) beats Ole Miss, Oklahoma, Vandy and Bama. Remember after going up by 17 in the first half, Bama only scored 3 points in the 2nd half. We actually were only down by 10 points vs Vandy going into the 4th quarter. Both teams stalled out with back to back 3 and outs in the fourth after we kicked that FG to get down to 7. Only on their final drive did they start moving the football again.
LSU still had Joe Sloan in charge of the offense. That was the much, MUCH, bigger problem. That offensive approach was awful and no QB, including a healthy Nussmeier would have had any real success in it. Listen to any former player who followed LSU. They will tell you that. If you listened to Hester and Flynn they, nicely, implied the offensive approach was horrible. After BK was ousted they were more direct in speaking about just how bad the design and play calling was. For example, one said "It might help if you have more than 1 and half running plays so the defense doesn't know exactly what it coming every time." Or, "does LSU (i.e. Sloan) know you are allowed to throw the ball over the middle of the field?" This isn't people on the Rant saying that. It's guys who played high level football for years.
A healthy Nuss and half decent OL alone gets us to 11-1. Just like not having the worst defense in LSU history in 2023 gets us to 11-1.
quote:If LSU had paid Denbrock, the run game wouldn't have fallen off a cliff either. I showed these numerous times, but LSU's RBs as a unit averaged over 5 yards a carry in Denbrock's offense. Literally the same OL the very next year who had 2 years of starting together, only mustered 4.3 ypc from the RBs. Look at what Denbrock did his last year at Cincinnati and what he has done at Notre Dame too. Only 2 RBs from 2021 to 2025 at 3 different schools have averaged under 5 yards a carry for him. Both of those guys averaged 4.89 and 4.93 yards respectively. This is a double digit number of RBs too.
If you want to reduce BK's failure to one decision, it was the decision to let Denbrock walk in what was ultimately an effort to sign Underwood. BK didn't fully appreciate that recruiting now is really just contract negotiations. It DID NOT matter that LSU invested years and money in building the relationship with Underwood. In the end, the bigger contract offer won out.
That's why I keep saying to not blame the blocking strictly on Brad Davis. The RBs had few problems running behind those lines in Denbrock's offenses.
It's crazy that both Miles and Kelly died by the OC sword.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 4:36 pm to Covingtontiger77
Sometimes the simplest answer is the right one. NOT here! Nussmeier was ONE of several football problems...not in a particular order
1) Nussmeier not running past the LOS and off on deep balls definitely A problem
2) LSU OL was PATHETIC and so was the OL coach. If you can't run the ball in the SEC, you can't beat the good teams
3) The DL was overrated. If you can't rush the passer on 3rd and longs without rushing at least 2 extra players, you give up a lot of 3rd and longs
4) Sloan is NOT a good OC. Incompetence usually shows itself once you get to a certain level. OC is above his football ceiling as a coach
5) Kelly is a great CEO coach. But if he has bad assistants like the OC, OL coach, and RB coach, it shows his limits as a hands off coach
1) Nussmeier not running past the LOS and off on deep balls definitely A problem
2) LSU OL was PATHETIC and so was the OL coach. If you can't run the ball in the SEC, you can't beat the good teams
3) The DL was overrated. If you can't rush the passer on 3rd and longs without rushing at least 2 extra players, you give up a lot of 3rd and longs
4) Sloan is NOT a good OC. Incompetence usually shows itself once you get to a certain level. OC is above his football ceiling as a coach
5) Kelly is a great CEO coach. But if he has bad assistants like the OC, OL coach, and RB coach, it shows his limits as a hands off coach
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