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re: Moscona said Harris skipped Alma Mater and Team handshakes

Posted on 9/12/16 at 6:59 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 6:59 pm to
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I've been on your side in this thread up until now. Why are you going there? Maybe these guys are right about you. You couldn't leave it alone. It wasn't race. It was good things happening as soon as he comes in after watching BH truly look incapable for a bit.


I didn't leave it at "why?" to imply racism, so I apologize for any confusion. I'm genuinely asking why someone would boo the "offense" after the first 6 plays, but they didn't find any reason to boo the "offense" in the second half. I'm not pinning it on Etling - the OL continued their struggles and the receivers didn't do him any favors - but to suggest the offense was anything more than putrid as a group in the second half is wrong.

I'm suggest - and I'm right - that all of this talk about booing the coaches is boloney. People booed Harris. I don't believe their motivations were racial, just to be clear, but there is nothing to suggest they were booing anything more than the individual.
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 6:59 pm to
A man will be with his team and not run to the locker room because he didn't get his way.
Posted by Lou the Jew from LSU
Member since Oct 2006
5422 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 7:00 pm to
Les uses emotion to coach, as opposed to say technique or strategy. As a result he identifies with emotional players. Thus his tendency to stay with some players way to long.
While football can teach lessons, it is not a social welfare program or a self realization class. Every player should always know if the don't perform somebody else will get the chance.
This action will be most telling to his teammates, not the fans. He most likely lost many of them.
Win or lose, play or not, talented or not, inspired or not, football is a TEAM GAME. He'd better learn that.
I would bench him a game and tell him why. We are still going to need him, but only as a team member, not a petty prima dona who runs to his safe space. At his age guys were returning from wars, have lost parents, dropped out to work and far more. Feeling sorry for yourself is not admissible
Posted by LSU713
Plano, TX
Member since Dec 2003
669 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 7:00 pm to
I love all you tough fans behind keyboard with Internet muscles.

The same people who get their panties in a wad when someone disagrees with them on a board, are crucifying BH for this?

How many of us will never know the pressure that comes along with being the QB of LSU and realizing you are not fulfilling your own expectations.

How many of us were 20 years old and got disappointed bc of a girl, a grade, or an interview? It means so much to him and he was disappointed. Why kick and criticize the young man when he was down? Are we all the same people that were pushing for him over AJ or cheering when he chose us over Auburn?

Etling said he was supportive on the sideline; doesn't that mean anything?

I'm glad Etling was given a chance, but the syndrome of kicking OUR own players when they are at a low is pretty bush league.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 7:01 pm to
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You are easily the most self righteous poster on TD. Of course we will all pull for the team but DE absolutely deserves to start on Saturday and if you can't agree with that you are either a) really stupid or b) have an agenda.






Link to me suggesting anyone other than Etling should start? I can link you to quite a few posts where I said he completely deserves it for the spark he provided.

Additionally, I'm calling out bencoleman who is has done nothing but shite on Harris since Wisconsin. Non-stop. I'm not calling out all LSU fans or some bullshite.
Posted by BillF
New York, New York
Member since Jan 2006
5792 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 7:02 pm to
Harris pouted the whole night. As soon as Etling struggles, as all quarterbacks do at times, Miles will rush Harris onto the field. He won't have the same long leash Harris had. For whatever reason, Miles is determined to have Harris as the starter, especially if riding the pine hurts his feelings
Posted by Lou the Jew from LSU
Member since Oct 2006
5422 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 7:02 pm to
They didn't boo the second half because WE WERE LEADING THE GAME!
they didn't boo etling because HE WAS AT THE HELM FOR 3 td's
Goddamnit, it was not racism.
Did they cheer the TD catches and runs.....some were by AA players.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 7:03 pm to
quote:

A man will be with his team and not run to the locker room because he didn't get his way.




, and I'm the one with an agenda?

This place is pathetic.
Posted by bgtiger
SOLA
Member since Dec 2004
12108 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 7:03 pm to
If that was your intent, I'd call it noble, but futile.

They are only using cliches they've heard all their lives and take dramatic stances on a guy in a uniform they have no idea about personally.

In reality, it also goes for the guys that claim that (insert player here) is a "good kid and a great leader".... They have no idea, whatsoever.
This post was edited on 9/12/16 at 7:04 pm
Posted by bgtiger
SOLA
Member since Dec 2004
12108 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 7:06 pm to
But you don't post on a message board to tell everyone that you have no idea about what's going on, so we all double down on baseless bullshite, and draw battle lines
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 7:06 pm to
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Goddamnit, it was not racism.


Why the frick do you people keep brining it up??

The offense sucked arse the entire second half. Against JSU. I don't give a flying frick who was the QB, if you booed the first 6 plays of the game, you should have booed the offense in the second half.

Etling is one of 11 guys out there. So is Harris. This place says the play calling sucked in the second half, so why not boo the coaches since that is who the boos are intended??

Do you not see the lack of consistency? I don't give two shits what color the QB is, and I think that is true for 99% of the people in the stadium. However, they want to suggest they're just booing the coaching decisions and not the actual players and that is patently false.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 7:07 pm to
quote:

an you say the same



Absolutely

I don't have any confidence that he would be successful but yes. You've said a lot more than the comments you've just displayed.
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
6161 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 7:07 pm to
quote:

Link to me suggesting anyone other


You've got to be kidding me if you think I'll go back and read the same tired posts of yours over the past week. It's the same weak arse shite. We get it. You don't want to throw the players under the bus, just kids, great guy, blah blah blah.

Reality is the change should have been made a long time ago and nobody to blame but miles. He doesn't value the position and doesn't know how to develop QBs so the only one that should be criticized for not valuing BH is him. He set him up for failure.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 7:09 pm to
quote:

They are only using cliches they've heard all their lives and take dramatic stances on a guy in a uniform they have no idea about personally.

In reality, it also goes for the guys that claim that (insert player here) is a "good kid and a great leader".... They have no idea, whatsoever.

But you don't post on a message board to tell everyone that you have no idea about what's going on, so we all double down on baseless bullshite, and draw battle lines



Well said.
Posted by HC87
Coastal NC
Member since Dec 2014
5640 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 7:09 pm to
Pretty sad.... Young man has been given multiple opp's to lead this team on the field, and do the right thing as a potential leader... Move forward with Etling this week, and let's win some more games!
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 7:10 pm to
quote:

Reality is the change should have been made a long time ago and nobody to blame but miles. He doesn't value the position and doesn't know how to develop QBs so the only one that should be criticized for not valuing BH is him. He set him up for failure.




How can you say this, which is right by the way, but precede it with this?

quote:

You've got to be kidding me if you think I'll go back and read the same tired posts of yours over the past week. It's the same weak arse shite. We get it. You don't want to throw the players under the bus, just kids, great guy, blah blah blah.


Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
6852 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 7:10 pm to
quote:

I'm suggest - and I'm right - that all of this talk about booing the coaches is boloney. People booed Harris. I don't believe their motivations were racial, just to be clear, but there is nothing to suggest they were booing anything more than the individual


Exactly right.

The coaches never imply racism but the fans are a different story.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70046 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 7:13 pm to
If you think the fans were booing BH you're crazy. It was all directed at Miles
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
6161 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 7:15 pm to
quote:

ow can you say this, which is right by the way, but precede it with this


Because like I said you are self righteous and it's gotten old and fast. The booing was 100% on miles. BH just has not shown game awareness well into last year but miles is too stupid or stubborn to see it and he put BH in this position. Nobody to blame but him.
This post was edited on 9/12/16 at 7:16 pm
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
6852 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 7:18 pm to
quote:

The booing was 100% on miles


Why weren't they booing in the 2nd half then when we were running the ball every play on our way to scoring 7 points.
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