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Posted on 1/18/18 at 2:45 pm to Scoob
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t's possible, for sure. Guice is a running back, they don't command 1st rd deals anymore.
That narrative has long since passed. If Guice runs a sub 4.5, he’s going to be the 2nd RB taken in the 1st round of the draft.
This post was edited on 1/18/18 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 1/18/18 at 2:45 pm to kengel2
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You mean like he did for LSU this year
Yeah, because 10 pounds over weight and not in game shape is the same as turning into a whale and pounding lean.
Why people on this site want Key to fail so bad is crazy to me.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:02 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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Why people on this site want Key to fail so bad is crazy to me.
I don't really care if he fails or not. You can't argue the dude was a huge distraction and took the school for a ride this year. He should have just quit and gave his scholarship to someone else.
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Yeah, because 10 pounds over weight and not in game shape is the same as turning into a whale and pounding lean.
Dude was a whale this year. Did you not see how his uniform barely fit?
Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:10 pm to MistaMike9
hahahahaa...major steal? This quitter/head case doesn't have the chest. Trust me, he will be a major bust!!
Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:42 pm to coachw
quote:
hahahahaa...major steal? This quitter/head case doesn't have the chest. Trust me, he will be a major bust!!
Holds LSU’s single season sack record as a true sophomore.
“Doesn’t have the chest. Major bust.”
These are the mouth breathers that post here.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:44 pm to Magazine St
quote:It all depends on the value people put on him, and what the need is.
That narrative has long since passed. If Guice runs a sub 4.5, he’s going to be the 2nd RB taken in the 1st round of the draft.
Last season, there were only 2 backs taken in the 1st rd: Fournette, a once-every-few-years talent (Guice isn't viewed as that), and McCaffrey, viewed as a legit do-everything player (Guice is also not viewed as that).
Dalvin Cook was the 3rd back, and he dropped to the 2nd rd. I think he might have been more highly regarded than Guice is currently.
If you take a back in the 1st rd, this means at least one of several things:
1) he's great, and you think you can feature him
Guice isn't expected to be anyone's featured offensive weapon, the way Fournette is in Jacksonville, or the way McCaffrey was planned (or the way Kamara has worked out).
2) he's the missing part of your offense, which is otherwise set
there aren't a lot of teams that are set on offense, other than a RB. Seattle is one of those teams, and he could fit there
3) you don't have holes that need filling
Seattle has holes. The Legion of Boom fell apart, and they need defenders ASAP. Russell Wilson can score, I think they focus on defense first.
4) you have an extra pick, and this is a luxury addition
I don't know who has extra picks offhand.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 5:16 pm to Scoob
Dalvin Cook was deemed a 1st round talent, but his arrests and fumbling problems in college cost him some money. Guice has had a 1st round grade without any off field issues. Teams like Cleveland, San Francisco, Philadelphia, Seattle, NY Giants and Jets can all use a talented runner. The success of recent 1st round RBs, including our own MI22, has changed that foolishness for the better. Not many teams make the committee approach work as well as the Saints have over the years. Jacksonville and Atlanta are the only other teams that comes to mind.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 5:26 pm to Solo Cam
Guice will go in first round. I doubt Key will. His bullshite cost him more money that most Louisiana natives make in a life time. 10-15 million at least
Posted on 1/18/18 at 6:06 pm to Magazine St
quote:There were some that placed Cook ahead of Fournette as far as top back coming out. Nobody is putting Guice ahead of Barkley.
Dalvin Cook was deemed a 1st round talent, but his arrests and fumbling problems in college cost him some money. Guice has had a 1st round grade without any off field issues.
quote:Cleveland, the Giants, the Jets and the 49ers are picking in the top 10. I don't think anyone considers Guice a top 10 prospect. The Browns have 2 picks, at 1 and 4; and they're the team likely to get Barkley at 4 (remember, an extra pick makes it ok).
Teams like Cleveland, San Francisco, Philadelphia, Seattle, NY Giants and Jets can all use a talented runner.
Of the teams outside the top 10- Seattle has a need, but they need defensive help more. I think they get a corner, safety, or LB to help plug the holes in the first rd. They might be considering Guice in the 2nd, if he falls past the teams you mentioned in the 2nd.
The Eagles are the only other 1st rd candidate, and they will be picking in the 30's. It's possible he goes then.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 6:10 pm to Blktiger
D. G., will be a first rounder. Key should have come back, but maybe he does not care
The only easy day was..Yesterday
The only easy day was..Yesterday
Posted on 1/18/18 at 6:14 pm to LSUInTheBR
quote:of course, but that's what makes his bizarre junior year so frustrating. NFL GMs won't just look at his sophomore year - they'll look at it all. You're dreaming if you don't think so.
Holds LSU’s single season sack record as a true sophomore.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 6:46 pm to Scoob
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Dalvin Cook was the 3rd back, and he dropped to the 2nd rd. I think he might have been more highly regarded than Guice is currently.
Cook dropped because he ended up being a terrible athlete
I dont think Guice has great top end speed but his explosion will show on paper. If he has a good combine, he goes in the 1st.
if Key didnt workout at the combine he goes in the late 1st. With a good combine he can go in the top 10.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 6:51 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
Based on this past season, just showing up would be a great start. Second would be actually dressing out in football gear and third would be actually playing like he he gives a shite and is really trying to win a goddam football game. Late second if lucky
Posted on 1/18/18 at 6:56 pm to Lester Earl
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if Key didnt workout at the combine he goes in the late 1st. With a good combine he can go in the top 10.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 6:59 pm to MistaMike9
Key didn't earn first round. Maybe not even second. Third will depend on if he can convince anyone he's not a flake.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:06 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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Guice I could see potentially not going in the first. I don't think there is very much of a chance that Key falls past the top 15, much less the first round. There would have to be some major issues exposed.
My opinion, exactly.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:09 pm to Captain Rumbeard
There are just too many questions on Key that will keep him out of the first round. I'd say he should be really happy to get picked in the 2nd, but I could see him slip to 3rd easily if other concerns of combine issues arise.
Guice is going to be more in a position if he's in the right place and the right time and shows the right things in workouts, combines, & interviews. I see it more of a combination of need and availability for the prospective team. I'm not thinking he gets invited to the drat room, but could be wrong. Hopefully he'll get picked by a team that will use another RB at least will be around his first 1-2 years which will help his durability and getting up to NFL speed and length of season issues.
Guice is going to be more in a position if he's in the right place and the right time and shows the right things in workouts, combines, & interviews. I see it more of a combination of need and availability for the prospective team. I'm not thinking he gets invited to the drat room, but could be wrong. Hopefully he'll get picked by a team that will use another RB at least will be around his first 1-2 years which will help his durability and getting up to NFL speed and length of season issues.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:21 pm to Big Lesticles
Key - Offseason health issues, offseason mental issues
Post season finger issue, no last game
What happened to this guy, seriously? He was beyond beastly and came down to just good.
Post season finger issue, no last game
What happened to this guy, seriously? He was beyond beastly and came down to just good.
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