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re: Mitigation clause in Kelly's contract
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:12 am to Purplehaze44
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:12 am to Purplehaze44
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It’s what I would do unless Penn State or some other school that kinda matters is dumb enough to hire him.
He would be perfect a Penn State. The biggest problem at LSU was the cultural fit. His soft low physical style of coaching would work in the Big 10. He knows the area and is more culturally in synch.
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Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:13 am to mike4lsu
Bret Bielema was sued by the Razorback Foundation over a contract dispute after he was fired as the University of Arkansas's head football coach in 2017. The lawsuit, which settled in April 2021, centered on the buyout clause in his contract, specifically the foundation's claim that he did not make "best efforts" to find a new, high-paying job. In the settlement, Bielema received a reduced payout of $8.085 million of the original $11.935 million agreement.
The lawsuit and its claims
Bielema's lawsuit: Bielema initially sued the Razorback Foundation in June 2020 for breach of contract, alleging the foundation owed him unpaid buyout wages.
Foundation's counterclaim: The foundation counter-sued, claiming Bielema and his agent allegedly schemed to take an artificially low salary from his new job with the New England Patriots to reduce the amount the foundation owed him.
Bielema's defense: Bielema argued that he had made best efforts to find a new job and that his new role with the Patriots was not in violation of the contract.
The settlement
Resolution: In April 2021, the two parties reached a settlement to end the dispute.
Payout: Bielema was paid $8.085 million, which was a portion of the $11.935 million originally owed to him under the contract.
Agreement: As part of the settlement, Bielema released the Razorback Foundation from an additional $3.85 million in payments.
Other key points
The lawsuit involved the New England Patriots and head coach Bill Belichick, who were subpoenaed to testify about Bielema's salary.
The settlement meant the Patriots would avoid having to divulge internal information about their coaching salaries and operations.
The lawsuit and its claims
Bielema's lawsuit: Bielema initially sued the Razorback Foundation in June 2020 for breach of contract, alleging the foundation owed him unpaid buyout wages.
Foundation's counterclaim: The foundation counter-sued, claiming Bielema and his agent allegedly schemed to take an artificially low salary from his new job with the New England Patriots to reduce the amount the foundation owed him.
Bielema's defense: Bielema argued that he had made best efforts to find a new job and that his new role with the Patriots was not in violation of the contract.
The settlement
Resolution: In April 2021, the two parties reached a settlement to end the dispute.
Payout: Bielema was paid $8.085 million, which was a portion of the $11.935 million originally owed to him under the contract.
Agreement: As part of the settlement, Bielema released the Razorback Foundation from an additional $3.85 million in payments.
Other key points
The lawsuit involved the New England Patriots and head coach Bill Belichick, who were subpoenaed to testify about Bielema's salary.
The settlement meant the Patriots would avoid having to divulge internal information about their coaching salaries and operations.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:14 am to mike4lsu
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o let me get this straight, let us say another NCAA school could hire Kelly as an HC and pay him a $100,000 a year.
There is usually language in the contract that states he has to negotiate a fair wage at the next spot in good faith.
Some mid-major can't hire him for 100k and LSU is on the hook for $8.5M unless the FMV for that coaching gig is 100k
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:17 am to mike4lsu
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He would be perfect a Penn State. The biggest problem at LSU was the cultural fit.
No the biggest problem is he isn’t actually a good enough coach to be successful week in and week out in a real conference. He doesn’t win unless he plays a schedule like Notre Dame’s where you are head and shoulders better than all but one, maybe two teams on your schedule. And then still lose three games on average.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:17 am to mike4lsu
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The mid major could pay him a token sum. He would still get paid $9.5 million overall, and the mid major could use the 2-3 million they would have paid for an HC on NIL.
Let me see. I could collect $9.5 miliion every year and play golf 5 times a week, live abroad and come back to the US every few months, sleep until 10 AM every day, never have to deal with players flunking drug tests, getting arrested, kiss their arse in recruiting, haggle over thier NIL, worry about them heading to the transfer portal, get grilled in press conferences, national media, social media over every little thing that doesn't go the way an ungrateful fan base thinkks it should........
Or I can coach at some podunk school, forfeit the aforementioned freedom of lifestyle and have to deal with all the aforementioned bullshite - but basically for free?
Yeah, I know which direction I'm going.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:18 am to 777Tiger
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don't you love the business savvy and negotiating skills of our AD??
that's pretty standard language in coaching contracts.
the coach has to "make reasonable effort" to land a fair market value job.
so wherever he lands, he'll have to get paid a salary at least in the ballpark of other coaches at that same level.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:19 am to LSU82BILL
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sleep until 10 AM every day
who does that? who could do that?
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:21 am to mike4lsu
Why do yall think any agreement in writing is binding and that is that?
Agreements that are disputed go before courts all the time and can be voided or deemed voidable for so many different reasons.
Do you think that if Arkansas paid him $100k and LSU pushed back and it went in front of a judge the judge would be like “well the contract says…”
No. It’s very clear that’s unreasonable and it would be treated as such. That’s not even remotely possible.
Agreements that are disputed go before courts all the time and can be voided or deemed voidable for so many different reasons.
Do you think that if Arkansas paid him $100k and LSU pushed back and it went in front of a judge the judge would be like “well the contract says…”
No. It’s very clear that’s unreasonable and it would be treated as such. That’s not even remotely possible.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:22 am to 777Tiger
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who does that?
Not me
[/quote] who could do that?[/quote]
Anybody that doesn't have a job or similar reason to get out of bed.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:23 am to LSU82BILL
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Anybody that doesn't have a job or similar reason to get out of bed.
I can't sleep in, even when I try, got to get up and kick the world's arse
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:29 am to crotiger0307
No
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:30 am to 777Tiger
It’s like that everywhere now
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:35 am to lsucoonass
Staggering how many “adults” have never read a standard contract in their life
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:38 am to mike4lsu
No, there’s no way a school would low ball him that absurdly low.
It’s gotta be within the ballpark he made here.
He either retires or coaches at another major program. I don’t see the latter happening unless it’s Penn state
It’s gotta be within the ballpark he made here.
He either retires or coaches at another major program. I don’t see the latter happening unless it’s Penn state
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:45 am to mike4lsu
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So Kelly could make us pay him a salary while he coaches a competitor.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:53 am to SaveFarris
And we are somewhat lucky in that we can spread the payments to Kelly out over several years. I’ve heard of some coaches that have contracts that they get their buyout in a lump sum within 30 or 60 days after being let go. I think Stoops at Kentucky set up like that.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 12:04 pm to lsucoonass
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It’s gotta be within the ballpark he made here.
You think Saban was paying Butch Jones, Kiffin, or Sark in the ballpark of what they were making as a head coach?
Posted on 10/28/25 at 12:05 pm to mike4lsu
Like Josh McDaniel- still getting a BIG check from the Raiders and the Patriots are paying him league avg or so co-ordinator salary
Posted on 10/28/25 at 12:07 pm to mike4lsu
A) However they couldn’t pay him minimum amount and expect LSU to pay the rest, they would get sued. He would have to make an average salary commensurate with the position he takes whether it be coaching or television
Just realized that’s been said over the whole thread
Just realized that’s been said over the whole thread
This post was edited on 10/28/25 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 10/28/25 at 12:18 pm to weadjust
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You think Saban was paying Butch Jones, Kiffin, or Sark in the ballpark of what they were making as a head coach?
Those three had never had the success at the level Kelly has had at the time. Sark, while successful, had the drinking situation and needed to rehabilitate. Butch Jones was horrible at Tennessee. Kiffin also really had issues at USC in addition to some personal problems.
Kelly is relatively still highly regarded with not much personal baggage. He will probably land somewhere.
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