re: Missed field goal result of not being ready?

Wasting the time out the play before was the first head scratcher. Traditionally you would expect a snap with 1-2 seconds. Get stopped, wait to 1 second on 4th. Call a time out. Casually go on the field and kick the football.

I just dont get the fog we have in these situations. I mean it appeared our head coach lost track of downs for a second.

Missed field goal result of not being ready?
Clock Management and late-game preparation is on the HC.

I think the real head-scratcher is why not call TO before you kick? Why rush yourself or your ST in that situation? Didn't seem to make much sense doing it the way we did it.

This. I thought the same thing in the game.

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I recorded the game and rewatched it....before the FG play, the camera is on Miles and he clearly asks Kragthorp "What down is it?"

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I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this. Can someone with a recording of the game do a screen capture of that exchange and post it to YouTube? I'm at work, otherwise I'd do it myself.

Seriously, this needs wide distribution. And I say that as a Les Miles defender.

a kicking thread and not one comment about Mo Isom? big step for the rant

Are you guys really this stupid? Did you not watch the game? It technically WASN'T 4th down yet. Auburn could have accepted the holding penalty, in which case, we would have been backed up, and would have had to replay 3rd down. Because the clock was running down, this wouldn't have been a smart decision on AU's part, but it was a possible outcome. If there had been more time, it would have been a very smart decision, because we would have still run the ball and kicked, and it would have been a longer FG try. Anyway, the offense stayed on the field until after the call was made, because of this. if it hadn't been for the holding penalty, the FG team would have immediately run onto the field for 4th down.

That's when things got messed up. Every team has assistants and players with clipboards who help to control the flow of teams on and off the field. Either the decision came too late after the penalty was declined, and things got rushed, or the decision was already made, and the rest of the staff didn't act fast enough. Miles looked a little confused and rushed in the camera shot after the call, so it's probably on him. He isn't the only cook in that kitchen, though. The staff as a whole wasn't prepared for that particular situation.

But, no matter what, he wouldn't have trotted the FG team out there on 3rd and 15 for a 49 yard FG attempt, so the FG team wasn't going to wander out there while AU made their decision. We would have run another play, so it isn't as cut and dried a mistake as you guys seem to think.

Also, while I don't necessarily agree with calling TOs as the play clock runs down, many other coaches do it, as a way to drain every possible second off without any risks. It also game them time to make sure the 3rd down play was correct. We weren't the ones who needed to be concerned about the clock, since we had the lead. Who knows if the 2 burned TOs earlier in the half were Mett's fault or the coaches, but they were wasted, and we really could have used one of them there.

Despite ALL of this, Alleman and the holder should have been smart enough, the way things were playing out, to take the 5 yard penalty and take their time on the kick. 44 yards is still well within his range.

I like Les & think he can recite but when the game starts he goes into a coma & at the end he ask the other coaches if we won

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solid post

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No, it wasn't.

The clock stops on a penalty and doesn't start running again until being marked for play. That means Miles had extra time to have the FG unit ready. Both the offense and the FG unit should have been ready to go depending on the outcome of the penalty. Furthermore, it was pretty obvious that Auburn was going to decline because LSU would have been able to take additional 10 seconds or so off the clock had the penalty been accepted.

We were unprepared, plain and simple.

I guess my point is that, this wasn't a flat-out bonehead gaffe. It was a situational mistake because of the penalty, and a very correctable one. We haven't seen anywhere close to the same level of clock management issues since Crowton was shown the door, so as long as the rest of the offensive and special teams staff tightens this loose screw up, it won't matter if Miles knows what the hell is happening right that second.

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this wasn't a flat-out bonehead gaffe.

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Meh. It wasn't as bad as we've seen, but its totally inexcusable on this level of football.