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re: Milazzo throw down
Posted on 3/31/23 at 11:53 am to Itwasacleantackle
Posted on 3/31/23 at 11:53 am to Itwasacleantackle
The last pitch Ack threw I'm assuming was supposed to be a slider low in the dirt based on where Milazzo's glove was and the pitch count. Milazzo got crossed up with high fastball, wasn't his fault and I'm guessing that's why JJ made the move to get him out.
This post was edited on 3/31/23 at 11:54 am
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Posted on 3/31/23 at 12:02 pm to Lester Earl
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It was a 91mph pitch and had his catching position been better he handles that ball easily.
He’s goes down to a knee and is still able to square it up.
If you are the guy everyone says can catch in the MLB because you defense is that good, you don’t miss this ball.
It's not a passed ball, again, it was a wild pitch. It was so far out of the zone because Ack got hurt again throwing and came out immediately after the pitch. Right after Ack threw it he was sorry my fault.
You cant expect a guy to cleanly get to something like that expecting nothing like it. If he was in a taller stance expecting a high fastball, sure, but he wasn't expecting a super high pitch. He was setup low and ready to block something in the dirt if it went there. Thats nowhere close to where the pitch ended up. Sure it would be nice if he could have gotten to it but no catcher is going to always get to that, hence why it's a wild pitch, not passed ball.
This post was edited on 3/31/23 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 3/31/23 at 12:05 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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Milazzo is elite defensively. The people who try to argue otherwise are idiots. They don't like his hitting so they just try to rag on him at any possible moment.
His elite defense single handedly cost Skenes a W last night.
He’s a good veteran defense catcher with a very good arm and that’s about it. He’s not an “elite” anything.
Posted on 3/31/23 at 12:24 pm to geauxtigers33
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That’s not an easy ball to get to.
When you are on one knee, it isn’t.
He was caught in a bad position. There is not a debate about it. In that moment in the game, as a defensive replacement, you have to catch that ball. That is not an egregious wild pitch. It just looks like it is because he is on a frickin knee lol
Posted on 3/31/23 at 12:37 pm to Lester Earl
Millazo is a good defender. Really good at blocking balls but not elite at that aspect. His pop time is what is elite.
Posted on 3/31/23 at 1:09 pm to geauxtigers33
I’m not, I wanted him safe but more than anything I’d like those reviews to show me why something should stand or be overturned.
If not, the initial call should stand. Thought that was the whole deal.
If not, the initial call should stand. Thought that was the whole deal.
Posted on 3/31/23 at 1:20 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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Those were bad throws by Ack.
The first was perfectly placed just off the outside corner and Milazzo tried to frame it before he caught it.
That was all on Milazzo.
Posted on 3/31/23 at 1:24 pm to Lester Earl
quote:I've noticed that Milazzo goes into that position frequently, almost every pitch. Wasn't that something made popular by Tony Pena?
When you are on one knee, it isn’t.
He was caught in a bad position. There is not a debate about it. In that moment in the game, as a defensive replacement, you have to catch that ball. That is not an egregious wild pitch. It just looks like it is because he is on a frickin knee lol
As I remember, the argument used to be that it was easier on the legs, as compared to squatting for 9 innings. But if Milazzo is coming in for 2-3 innings, that wouldn't be as big an issue. I guess it's the way he's accustomed to. I definitely agree it played a big part in not getting that second pitch.
That first passed ball, he just whiffed while trying to frame it. He pulled the mitt in before catching it. You can't be fricking around doing that in a tight game late, with a guy on.
Posted on 3/31/23 at 1:48 pm to Scoob
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As I remember, the argument used to be that it was easier on the legs, as compared to squatting for 9 innings.
It’s also better for framing pitches low in the zone. Most modern catchers use this technique not just Milazzo.
Posted on 3/31/23 at 1:55 pm to Lester Earl
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He was caught in a bad position. There is not a debate about it. In that moment in the game, as a defensive replacement, you have to catch that ball. That is not an egregious wild pitch. It just looks like it is because he is on a frickin knee lol
There is a debate about it actually because the glove was in the dirt and he was on a knee expecting slider and got a high outside fastball. Crossed him up when he’s expecting an 80mph slider in the dirt to a 90+ mph fastball out the zone. Milazzo has never made mistakes like that and it’s exactly why Johnson made the call to get Edwards in because he was missing signs.
Posted on 4/1/23 at 9:19 am to geauxtigers33
quote:Seems as if you maybe haven’t been around baseball in your life. In most cases no catcher is catching that fastball when the pitcher is supposed to throw a off-speed. Doesn’t matter who it is. No one sets up for any pitch thrown. You set up for the pitch called. Especially at this level with the velo it’s just not going to happen.
quote: It was a 91mph pitch and had his catching position been better he handles that ball easily. He was set up low and in and got a 91 mph fastball up and away. That’s not an easy ball to get to. Milazzo would probably be the first to tell you he should have caught it but it’s called a wild pitch for a reason. quote: If you are the guy everyone says can catch in the MLB because you defense is that good, you don’t miss this ball No one says he can play in the MLB right now. That is something that MLB catchers should be able to make but he still has some developing to do. He is the better defensive catcher out of him and Neal but he isn’t perfect. He’s really really good but I do think the rant overrates his defense some.
This post was edited on 4/1/23 at 9:23 am
Posted on 4/1/23 at 9:34 am to JWill409
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because the glove was in the dirt and he was on a knee expecting slider
There is what you think happened...
...and what actually happened
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