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re: Middleman at center of LSU, Will Wade wiretap scandal convicted in NCAA corruption trial

Posted on 5/8/19 at 4:01 pm to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65116 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 4:01 pm to
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Forman is Smart.

no, Forman is a person, Smart's middle-man to be exact.
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Dawkins is the middleman.

incorrect. he was a middle-man, but was not the middle man for Smart
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Is the Rant this stupid? How is this contrarian. I thought this was common knowledge.


You seem to live and die with the yahoo articles, and these articles say Shannon Forman was Smart's middle-man. I don't know how clearer that can be. Good lord man, give it up.
This post was edited on 5/8/19 at 4:03 pm
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8537 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 4:03 pm to
If you paid attention at the trial, you would see that Dawkins identified Wade (along with a ton of other coaches) as a potential target for his business. He was clearly reaching out to him on several recruits, including Koprivica. Had that deal occurred, it was likely that Dawkins would have been the middleman, but it didn't happen.

You are literally the only person who has ever floated this idea that Dawkins was the Smart middleman.
Posted by EXPLAYER
Member since Jul 2017
10786 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 4:04 pm to
DingDingDing, you my man win the prize. I usually read Lester’s comments but this last one on middle man is crazy. He is a JJ holdover ,please forgive him. Not sure how people that say they are fans can always talk crap about coaches. Be it Coach O, CM or Wade . Damm this is getting worse then reading shite about the Dems. I M a Blackman and I am Woke!
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
17966 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 4:05 pm to
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Dawkins specifically tried to mention Will Wade (and was blocked by the Feds) as an example of a coach he *did not* bribe.
Oh that is interesting! Got a link to where you got this information from?
yep! You're welcome.

LINK

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According to the report, U.S. Attorney Geoffrey S. Berman filed a motion on Friday, asking U.S. District Court Judge Edgardo Ramos to not allow the defendants from “offering evidence that they had relationships with other coaches who they did not bribe” and “from putting the NCAA and the NCAA’s rules on amateurism on trial.”

Federal prosecutors also argued that the defendants’ plan to receive testimony from Miller and Wade that Dawkins didn’t bribe them, even though they might have the most influence over their players, is irrelevant.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65116 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 4:05 pm to
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You are literally the only person who has ever floated this idea that Dawkins was the Smart middleman.

I mean shite yahoo has made a point to go all-in on this Will Wade story and even they don't allege Dawkins was the middle-man for Smart
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278765 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 4:15 pm to
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You are literally the only person who has ever floated this idea that Dawkins was the Smart middleman.



You just did you dumb frick

He was clearly reaching out to him on several recruits, including Koprivica. Had that deal occurred, it was likely that Dawkins would have been the middleman, but it didn't happen.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43223 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 4:16 pm to
Dawkins was not Wade’s middleman.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278765 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 4:17 pm to
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incorrect. he was a middle-man, but was not the middle man for Smart


Wade is talking to Dawkins because _________\.

Please fill in the blank.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65116 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 4:17 pm to
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You just did you dumb frick

He was clearly reaching out to him on several recruits, including Koprivica. Had that deal occurred, it was likely that Dawkins would have been the middleman, but it didn't happen.

That does not float the idea that Dawkins was Smart's middle-man. It floats the idea that he was the middle-man for other players. Are you just choosing to be obtuse or are you really incapable of reading (and comprehending) the posts you respond to or the articles that have covered this story?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65116 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 4:18 pm to
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Wade is talking to Dawkins because _________\.

because he was recruiting other players for whom Dawkins was the middle-man. Again, this isn't complicated.

This post was edited on 5/8/19 at 4:21 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278765 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 4:20 pm to
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because he was recruiting other players for whom Dawkins was the middle-man. Again, this isn't complicated.


No, specifically regarding Smart. Directly talking about an offer for Smart.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119032 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 4:21 pm to
I'm happy this shite is over.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65116 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 4:22 pm to
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No, specifically regarding Smart.

Do you, by chance, have a job? And if you do, when conducting business do you never shoot the shite with your business contacts about business you've conducted with others? Idk, maybe you sit in a cubicle all day and don't conduct business with multiple different representatives for multiple different clients, but I know in my line of work we discuss other business stories with one another that have absolutely nothing to do with the business we're conducting between ourselves.

Bottom line, Dawkins was not the middle-man for Smart. This has been confirmed by Dawkins, by Wade, and by yahoo. There is nothing out there from anyone that insinuates otherwise. You're creating a narrative that simply isn't there, likely because you've dug your heels in so deep on this argument and are incapable of admitting when you're wrong.
This post was edited on 5/8/19 at 4:23 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278765 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 4:24 pm to
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Are you just choosing to be obtuse or are you really incapable of reading (and comprehending) the posts you respond to or the articles that have covered this story?


You are hung up on yahoo calling Forman a middle man like that just clears everything up lol. Like you think you just skip Dawkins’ involvement. Forman accept money so Smart wouldn’t have to. Wade is on the other end. Dawkins is in the middle. I know you love being LNCBX jr and just love to argue but I know You are not this stupid
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119032 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 4:24 pm to
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Dawkins was not Wade’s middleman.



Lester doesn't understand the difference between being a middle man and being Smart's middle man.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65116 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 4:26 pm to
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You are hung up on yahoo calling Forman a middle man like that just clears everything up lol. Like you think you just skip Dawkins’ involvement. Forman accept money so Smart wouldn’t have to. Wade is on the other end. Dawkins is in the middle. I know you love being LNCBX jr and just love to argue but I know You are not this stupid

My man, there is literally nothing out there that insinuates Dawkins was Smart's middle-man, nothing. Did Wade probably conduct business with Dawkins for other players as a middle-man, absolutely IMO. That doesn't mean he did with Smart, and nothing in any transcripts shows otherwise.

I don't even know what that last comment is supposed to mean.

I've already taken you to town on the legal aspects of this case (I ended up being 10000% right, btw), to which you argued relentlessly. You have to grow tired of being wrong, right?
This post was edited on 5/8/19 at 4:28 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93803 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 4:26 pm to
This thread is mighty interesting.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119032 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 4:27 pm to
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No, specifically regarding Smart. Directly talking about an offer for Smart.


They could have been talking about "it" but that still doesn't qualify Dawkins as Smart's middle man.
Posted by vjp819
South Sec. 414 / Alex Box Sec. 210
Member since Nov 2003
10882 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 4:27 pm to
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Well apparently i have to subscribe to the advocate to read any article now


no you don't. you can read the same article on WAFB.com
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278765 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 4:28 pm to
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Lester doesn't understand the difference between being a middle man and being Smart's middle man.


It’s a pretty simple concept

You can label it as

Wade—-Dawkins —- Smart camp

Or Wade—Dawkins—Forman—Javonte


Dawkins is still the middle man for Smart & his handler
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