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re: Mel Kiper Draft Position Rankings for LSU Players
Posted on 12/19/19 at 11:31 pm to GeauxLSU4
Posted on 12/19/19 at 11:31 pm to GeauxLSU4
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Cincy might trade out of the top pick. They need loads of help.
Sure, but why would the team with the #2 pick trade up for anything other than a QB knowing that Cincy will likely pick Burrow? Now, if they make a bunch of noise that they are going to pick Young and con the #2 team into trading up with them, acquire additional picks and still get Burrow, that would be awesome for them, but that front office isn't that smart.
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Posted on 12/20/19 at 12:01 am to illuminatic
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I'm not familiar enough with him but maybe teams just stopped throwing at him. It's hard to compile stats when you don't get targeted.
You would think at some point in his college career he would've been targeted. This year he has 3 ints and 7 passes defended but he's being hyped up as a top 5 pick and the best cornerback in college football. Maybe it's his measurables. I have no idea, haven't really watched OSU much this season. I only know about his stats because I looked them up when people were bitching that he didn't win the Thorpe Award over Delpit.
Posted on 12/20/19 at 12:20 am to SofaKingTrill
Stingley would definitely be up there if he could be drafted but he can’t so what’s the point.
Fulton has 1 INT and 12 PD.
Fulton has 1 INT and 12 PD.
Posted on 12/20/19 at 12:28 am to slackster
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Which means Cincy would have to pass
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That's not what it means
That is exactly what it means yo me. Cincy has tanked all year for the #1 pick. They'd have to win out to lose it.
Kiper admits Burrow goes before Young, but can't let go of the media jive narrative that Young is a better player. A better TE? Sure. But TEs aren't nearly as valuable to a franchise as QBs... just the way it is.
This post was edited on 12/20/19 at 6:20 am
Posted on 12/20/19 at 6:26 am to SofaKingTrill
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3 ints and 7 passes defended
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I looked them up when people were bitching that he didn't win the Thorpe Award over Delpit.
Delpit has 6 PD and 2 int this year and I know his also missed 2 others that he should have held onto. And that’s as a safety playing hurt most of the year.
Also
Delpit 56 Tackle, 32 Solo 24 Assisted, 1Sack 1 FR
Okudah 30 Tackles, 25 Solo 5 Assisted, 2 FF
Certain positions allow for better numbers. Using PDs and Ints to rate a CB vs a safety isn’t any more telling than using tackles and sacks. Each position lends itself to different numbers being higher.
LSU players listed at CB that I recall getting significant playying time looked like they had comparable numbers to Ukudah as well.
Stingley 34Tackle, 29 Solo 5 Assisted, 15 PD 6 Int
Fulton 31Tackle, 21 Solo 10 Assisted, 12 PD 1 Int
Vincent (played mostly nickel IIRC) 41Tackle, 29 Solo 12 Assisted, 8 PD 3 Int
Posted on 12/20/19 at 7:10 am to TheWalrus
Who are the 8 tight ends better than Moss?
Posted on 12/20/19 at 7:36 am to tenderfoot tigah
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No Phillips on his list either.
Phillips did not have a good year. i know there was a post of him not missing tackles or whatever but he did not play well. Theres a reason hes not on many list and it showed this year. If he plays really well in the next game and gets another shot in championship then he will move up but as of right now i say maybe 4th round pick at best.downvote me all you want but watch the games especially ole miss and tell me he is an early round pick ? No.
Posted on 12/20/19 at 7:39 am to TheWalrus
Most of those seem underrated
Posted on 12/20/19 at 7:42 am to ConeHawk
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Strong class year. Off the top of my head: Okudah, Hall, Adebo, Henderson, Diggs.
Lol. No
Posted on 12/20/19 at 7:47 am to Pentagon69
The media narrative is that he “isn’t physically talented but is a great player”
Posted on 12/20/19 at 7:48 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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Joe Burrow- #1 quarterback, #2 overall
Which means Cincy would have to pass
No it means Burrow is rated as the overall #2 player. Player rankings =/= where they will go in the draft.
Posted on 12/20/19 at 7:51 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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That is exactly what it means yo me.
That’s explains a lot
Posted on 12/20/19 at 8:05 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Well he's not a tight end so
Posted on 12/20/19 at 8:21 am to SofaKingTrill
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This year he has 3 ints and 7 passes defended
One pick he was rolling around on the ground, and the ball got tipped into his lap, too. One of his highlights for the Thorpe, even though it seemed really lackluster to me.
This post was edited on 12/20/19 at 8:22 am
Posted on 12/20/19 at 8:40 am to TheWalrus
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Kristian Fulton- #4 cornerback, #22 overall
Kiper must be on that good shite... Fulton is a top 2 CB
Posted on 12/20/19 at 8:43 am to TheWalrus
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Blake Ferguson- #1 long snapper
Puts the LS in LSU.This post was edited on 12/20/19 at 8:44 am
Posted on 12/20/19 at 8:46 am to TheWalrus
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Justin Jefferson- #7 wide receiver
how?
I have seen him going in the first round in mocks.
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:08 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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Buckeye Jeaux
Jesus Christ, you are so fricking stupid.
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:09 am to Hot Carl
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Jesus Christ, you are so fricking stupid
He certainly gets unhinged at anything that does not say "Burrow = #1"
It is amazing.
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:13 am to TheWalrus
There can't be 9 TEs better than Thad Moss entering the draft, maybe in all of CFB
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