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re: McMahon may prove to be a solid hire.

Posted on 10/3/24 at 2:29 pm to
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 2:29 pm to
So that wasn’t horns?

That wasn’t zoom?

Avoid and deflect. It’s what you do. You made claims. I’m debunked them using a game you chose. Not hard because you don’t know what you’re looking at.

And I don’t care what some journalist pick LSU to finish. They get it very wrong every single year.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59865 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 2:35 pm to
I said it was on the 1st or second play but just because you run the ball one time doesn’t mean you run the ball. Your zoom assumption is false, that’s not zoom, neither is your phony lift cut claim but you do this a lot, try to impose your own definitions on things when you’re wrong. And of course you don’t care about those projections, it goes against your narrative but what you don’t get is the double standard and bias that sort of logic suggests.
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 2:40 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59865 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 2:37 pm to
Correct, his first class was ranked 15-17th nationally including transfers. Last season he had more top 100 players than all but 5 SEC teams. The narrative he’s pushing has no objective data or comparisons to support it.
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
4980 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 2:40 pm to
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Your zoom assumption is false, that’s not zoom,


What is zoom then? I gave you a description of zoom before you posted about the Syracuse game. And my description matches that play. Here is googles description.

zoom action is a play where a player receives a pin-down screen from one teammate and then immediately receives a dribble handoff from another teammate.


I said zoom is a pin down followed by a DHO. Same definition basically. That’s not making things up. That’s knowing the actions. So what is your description of zoom?

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try to impose your own definitions on things when you’re wrong.


What definition did I get wrong? You can’t name one. Again what is zoom and how is my description wrong.



Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32256 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 2:44 pm to
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But we can't down play that although the sanctions never came like we thought, the threat of them could have impacted recruiting and perception of the program.


The evidence suggests it didn't. He signed a top 20 recruiting class in his first season. Ward, Reed and Phillips all had other offers from multiple major conf. programs. If they were truly concerned about the perception of the program, why would they have signed with LSU when they easily could have gone elsewhere? Same for the guys who stayed (Wilkinson, Miller, Williams). All were top 100 recruits coming out of HS. All were recruited by other major conf. programs. It's not like their only options after Wade was fired was LSU or Kennesaw St. If they were deeply concerned about the program they would have left. Clearly they weren't. Same goes for KJ Williams and other Murray St. players. MSU was coming off a great season. Those guys could have gone to another major program. Yet, they chose to come to LSU


Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59865 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 2:45 pm to
lol you continue to make these false claims.. “you won’t answer, you don’t answer, you says this, you says that”. All false, all lies and it shows your hypocrisy and ill intent with everything you post. You may think Zoom is nothing but a pin down screen but if you’d follow college basketball you’d know it’s evolved into its own offense now and some teams run it continuously as their base. Might want to pay attention before you mouth off like a jackaas.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
39560 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 2:47 pm to
ALL CLASS [ON]
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
4980 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 2:47 pm to
Notice I said it could have. Didn’t say it did. I’m not certain either way.
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
4980 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 2:50 pm to
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ol you continue to make these false claims.. “you won’t answer, you don’t answer, you says this, you says that”. All false, all lies and it shows your hypocrisy and ill intent with everything you post. You may think Zoom is nothing but a pin down screen but if you’d follow college basketball you’d know it’s evolved into its own offense now and some teams run it continuously as their base. Might want to pay attention before you mouth off like a jackaas.


You brought up zoom not me. And said we didn’t run it which I proved we do based on a game you picked. There are teams that focus heavily on zoom action. But again zoom is just a pin down followed by a DHO. You didn’t claim we don’t run zoom exclusively. You claimed we don’t run it. Again I didn’t bring it up, you did. You maid a claim not me. You were wrong. Facts are you just don’t know ball but pretend too. Not noticing horns was eye opening to that fact.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59865 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 2:53 pm to
Like I said when you’re wrong you just change the definition to mean whatever’s convenient. You just did it to Alt, it’s a habit.
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
4980 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 2:58 pm to
Please give me an example. I haven’t changed one definition. I’ve gotten specific. Please get specific.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59865 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:03 pm to
How is it my fault you’re behind on current day offenses? You claim Zoom is nothing but a pin down screen, do you honestly believe I’d say we’ve never had a pin down screen? You’re being obtuse.
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 3:04 pm
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
4980 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:06 pm to
That’s not what I said. I said zoom was a pin down followed by a DHO and that’s exactly what zoom is. Every single basketball persons definition of zoom is that. A pin down is just a pin down. Generally zoom is started by a 5 man catching the ball at the top. The wing offensive player pins down for the corner player and then the corner player comes off a DHO. That is zoom. There is no other definition of it. Some teams have built their entire offense around that action but that doesn’t change what the action is. You don’t know offense much less modern day offense. You are out of your depth in this conversation. It’s okay. Just don’t get mad when you make a claim and people prove it wrong
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59865 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:10 pm to
lol ironic melt
Posted by Primeminister337
Member since Apr 2016
530 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:00 pm to
by drizztiger
quote:
X and O wise
Here were go, the mystical Xs and Os.

I’ve even read he blows other coaches away.


As a basketball guy all my life I can honestly tell ya 99% of the people here have no clue what X’s and O’s are. This assumption that Wade didn’t know X’s and O’s and played street ball gets a laugh out of me everytime lmao
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36649 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:00 pm to
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Just don’t get mad when you make a claim and people prove it wrong
He really lives up to his name. Eventually everyone else is a liar or hypocrite. Pretty sure last year he had a huge meltdown after we upset Kentucky.
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
4980 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:01 pm to
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This assumption that Wade didn’t know X’s and O’s and played street ball gets a laugh out of me everytime lmao


Absolutely right. It was maddening. Wade was a great offensive coach. His teams rolled out of bed and scored 80.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36649 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

As a basketball guy all my life I can honestly tell ya 99% of the people here have no clue what X’s and O’s are. This assumption that Wade didn’t know X’s and O’s and played street ball gets a laugh out of me everytime lmao
He did run a pretty simple offense. For me it just seemed like the team wasn't drilled enough on certain aspects. The troubles they had that one year in getting the ball out under their basket was key for me. Then he came up with that really strange solution by starting everyone out out of bounds after a made basket. Never saw anything like it.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
42959 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:07 pm to
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didn’t know X’s and O’s and played street ball gets a laugh out of me everytime lmao
Muh streetball is the TD version of a dunce cap for posters.

You can immediately ignore anything else they ever say. Hilarious.
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
111972 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:11 pm to
Mwani is probably a really nice IRL dude and I appreciate his perseverance, but he averaged 2.1 points and 1.0 rebounds for his senior season.

He should have played for a smaller school.
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