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re: McMahon may prove to be a solid hire.

Posted on 10/3/24 at 5:17 pm to
Posted by Primeminister337
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 5:17 pm to
shite I wish, give me weight or billy Donovan, I’ll even help them move in lol
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 6:54 pm to
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i like the new pfp baw
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 6:57 pm to
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Btw just watched the first 8 minutes of the Syracuse game,


that entire game was a total shitshow from start to finish
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 7:00 pm to
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LSU doesn't seem to have that guy on this roster. Jalen Reed can make a three. But he's averaged about 1 per game and he hasn't been terribly consistent. Same for Fountain. Collins doesn't seem like a pick and pop guy either.


Chest (even though he's not a center) and Collins both used their redshirt to improve shooting. I'm not certain on what their efficiency will be, but its clear that they will be asked to stretch the floor.
Posted by RGT
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 7:38 pm to
This isn’t a make or break year for McMahon,just like BK he got a longterm contract.LSU ain’t buying out a BB coach.
Posted by misey94
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:54 pm to
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Your "Boy", Woody, handled the firing of both coaches in the same manner. Don't blame the coaches. O didn't run off any players and neither did Wade.


Still smoking that O cock on command, I see. I hope he drinks pineapple juice for your sake.
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 11:55 pm
Posted by Pmac96
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 12:27 am to
Here we go again. Mediocre season inbound and then yall will say he needs another year. Bland boring coach.
Posted by bayoubilly57
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 3:39 am to
We will see !!!!
Posted by Tigerfan14
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 5:14 am to
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As a basketball guy all my life I can honestly tell ya 99% of the people here have no clue what X’s and O’s are. This assumption that Wade didn’t know X’s and O’s and played street ball gets a laugh out of me everytime lmao


The rant thinks the X’s and O’s in basketball is the inbound play drawn up on a white board in the huddle. You could average 40 points a game but if you can run a crisp inbound play then you are a modern day John Wooden.
Posted by Tigerfan14
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 5:20 am to
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I have some issues with Wade on his defensive X and Os


You mean his defensive personnel? He was a defensive coach his entire career until LSU. Went offense heavy building his teams because of the players he was landing, had one of the best defenses in college basketball when he intentionally build a team to get better there.

Posted by Tiger Ugly
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 6:58 am to
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Lastly, and this is just opinion and preference, with all the guard we have been recruiting, of run a fast break peddle to the metal offense, ya got the bodies for it, use a lot of traps, half court and full court press to create yourself extra possessions,


I'd have like to have seen a bit more of this last year, we seemed to be relatively effective when we did it, and I think we had the length and athleticism to do it with the right personnel.

One aspect I have had probably more issues with CMM than any other is who he plays, how much and when....rotations in other words.

I probably said it 20 times last year, but he would only sub Baker and Dean out for each other. He'd very, very rarely play Fountain and Reed together, which IMHO (see above) would have been our best duo for some pressing and trapping defensive sets.

It's not just me I heard Brady ask him one post game and one of the t.v. broadcasts Joe Kline openly wondered why he would not play Reed and Fountain together more.

That's one example but there were some other rotational things I could nitpick, but this one is the most consistently puzzling to me. Playing Justice Hill so much his first year was another. And even after he quit and was then let back on the team continued to play him way more than he ever earned.

I'm not a CMM hater. I want him to succeed. But the question was what specific issues any of us had, this is my biggest.

I've heard him give his reasons on the Baker/Dean rotations...I did not agree but he was resolute in his reasons....so be it.

Never heard his reasons for playing Hill so much, I don't think there's reasonable defense for that.
Posted by ElRoos
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 7:33 am to
Pump the brakes here lmao.
This post was edited on 10/4/24 at 7:34 am
Posted by mmcgrath
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 8:39 am to
Justice Hill just had a bad year at LSU, so it may have been a blind spot for McMahon to keep him involved. But really the year finished with him logging single digit minutes in a bunch of games anyway.

I think with Hill it was just mental. His numbers were solid the year before, then cratered at LSU, but jumped right back up last year. I know you might say competition, which is part of it, but even his free throw numbers cratered at LSU. Sometimes people just can't adapt to life in Baton Rouge, be it the humidity or just being out of their comfort zone.
This post was edited on 10/4/24 at 8:46 am
Posted by Alt26
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 8:54 am to
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This isn’t a make or break year for McMahon,just like BK he got a longterm contract.LSU ain’t buying out a BB coach.


I don't know if that is entirely true. I don't think the bar to get year 4 is incredibly high because I don't think Woodward wants to make a coaching change after making so many in his first 5 years. However, if LSU is non-competitive, we're talking like 5-6 wins in SEC play coupled with 4-5 losses in the non-conference, I think Woodward will have no choice but to consider a change. There is already very little excitement/interest in the program. A season where LSU is essentially out of the running by mid-late January will lead to an empty PMAC once again. Some high school games drew more fans than the amount that attended the "tournament" game last year vs. North Texas.

Recruiting success or not, it's highly likely 50% of the roster will be new next season simply because of the nature of the sport today. If after 3 seasons and 3 different rosters he's yet to prove he can be anything other than a barely .500 coach it gets to a point where you have to ask "are we just wasting time by going forward with another year and expecting different results?"
Posted by Safety Blitz
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:16 am to
This is not claiming he is, just the fact that the program has been slowly gaining momentum and recruiting is looking good.
Posted by TheLegend
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:28 am to
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I have some issues with Wade on his defensive X and Os

The defense was great his last year here. It's what really made that team.
Posted by S
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:31 am to
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Sometimes people just can't adapt to life in Baton Rouge, be it the humidity or just being out of their comfort zone.


I have been involved with basketball almost my whole life and this is the first time i’ve seen outdoor humidity used as an excuse for a player’s struggles.
Posted by redfishfan
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 10:34 am to
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You mean his defensive personnel? He was a defensive coach his entire career until LSU.


He was very good defensively in his time at LSU but there were some basic things we struggled with especially the year we had Cam Thomas. Wade himself admitted it. We were a “switch everything” defense that year and when you do that there are certain things you have to do. We didn’t do those things that season. Wade corrected it bigtime the following season though. Wade is the best basketball coach we’ve ever had at LSU so I don’t want any of this to come off as if I think he wasn’t anything other than great.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 10:55 am to
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He was very good defensively in his time at LSU but there were some basic things we struggled with especially the year we had Cam Thomas. Wade himself admitted it. We were a “switch everything” defense that year and when you do that there are certain things you have to do. We didn’t do those things that season. Wade corrected it bigtime the following season though. Wade is the best basketball coach we’ve ever had at LSU so I don’t want any of this to come off as if I think he wasn’t anything other than great.


It wasn't just one season. LSU was awful defensively most of Wade's tenure. It's why his two elite offensive teams were 8 seeds (they would have been in that range in 2020). In Wade's 5 seasons at LSU his teams were in the 100's in terms of defensive efficiency 3 seasons. For reference, national championship caliber teams are sub 25 in those rankings. 100+ as a major conf. team is awful. Great teams have balance. None of Wade's teams were except for one...18-19. It's not a coincidence it was his best team.

However, he completely flipped that script in 21-22. LSU was elite defensively. Frankly, that fact gave me a ton of hope for the future. He had shown he could fix the biggest thing holding LSU back from being a consistently great team....then the party ended.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 11:07 am to
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Justice Hill just had a bad year at LSU, so it may have been a blind spot for McMahon to keep him involved. But really the year finished with him logging single digit minutes in a bunch of games anyway.


I get it, but after about 10 games of him killing the team, that's too big a sample size to ignore. And that was before SEC and the teams we played were not very good at all.
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