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re: McKay explains why there is no need to melt about the DL recruiting
Posted on 2/7/19 at 4:16 pm to thunderbird1100
Posted on 2/7/19 at 4:16 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:they weren't bad, but they weren't better than mediocre. If they aren't elite next year, we'll know O can't field a dominate dl bc he's not going to get better talent combined with experience than next year's dl.
You thought our DLine was "bad" this year?
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 4:16 pm to Sir Fury
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There are far fewer 5* players than 3* players. So, yes, statistically speaking, there should be more 5* players percentage wise than 3*. But not being an all-american doesn't mean they aren't very good players. There are only a select few all-americans. So this train of thought is flawed to begin with.
1. All American and all conference teams acknowledge the best players. We should want those players at ever position, and are competing with people who have those types of players.
2. 5 stars making All American teams at a higher percentage than 3 and 4 stars means they’re more like to be great all American caliber players than 3 and 4 stars. Which means a team of 5 stars is much more likely to pan out than a team of 3*
When Bama does this we don’t blink, when people suggest LSU does it we get into “stars are overrated and we are picking diamonds in the rough”
Posted on 2/7/19 at 4:16 pm to Tiger Voodoo
I didn't bookmark your posts. The degree with which you and 2006 and your ilk spammed this board with negativity for months deemed that unnecessary. I don't expect any of you to admit the you were wrong or overly negative or critical, etc, but if you think posters who frequent this board have forgotten, that's hilarious.
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 2/7/19 at 4:17 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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You will get downvoted, but it's true. Bama signed more 4* DL this class than LSU will have on the roster in 2020.
But can Bama start all of them at the same time?
Posted on 2/7/19 at 4:19 pm to mattchewbocca
No they’ll just have to back up their 5 and 4 stars with more 4 stars.
Terrible
Or even pick out the best ones and have the losers transfer in a year or two. Damn
Terrible
Or even pick out the best ones and have the losers transfer in a year or two. Damn
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 2/7/19 at 4:20 pm to LSU Patrick
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I didn't bookmark your posts. The degree with which you and 2006 and your ilk spammed this board with negativity for months deemed that unnecessary.
Convenient. I've been down this road with a number of other posters and have pulled up my posts from this summer saying I'd bet on 8-4 but wouldn't at all be surprised by a 10-2 regular season. Not that you care, you just want to bitch about other posters.
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I don't expect any of you to admit the you were wrong or overly negative or critical, etc, but if you think posters who frequent this board have forgotten, that's hilarious.
I admit that I predicted us to go 8-4 in the regular season. Only game I got wrong was Auburn. Thought we'd lose a close one there. I was wrong. I admit it.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 4:21 pm to tigerskin
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LSU is only losing one defensive lineman off last year’s team: Ed Alexander, who opted to turn pro.
And what about 2020?
Posted on 2/7/19 at 4:22 pm to SammyTiger
This is why I hate Saban. Not because he left LSU.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 4:23 pm to LSU Patrick
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I didn't bookmark your posts
Ok, here’s what I posted ad nauseum after the Burrow signing. Let’s see how wrong I was:
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Nothing but propaganda to lower expectations and make the same results that got Miles fired look like some big achievement.
This is what Prince and O want you to think.
We aren’t losing 5 games. I don’t even think we lose 4. I think we go 9-3 and they will spin it as some big accomplishment because of these 5 loss predictions when in reality we should be a 10-2 team.
With this defense and a QB with the skill set of Burrow trainer by Urban Meyer there is absolutely no way even O can frick it up bad enough to go 7-5.
Half of our SEC opponents are coming off of dumpster fire years with new coaches and even MSU has a first year coach that has never been in the SEC and is in Tiger Stadium.
We play three really good teams, two at home, and a hyped up ACC team on neutral field. No one else in the top 18.
If we go 7-5 it will be an unmitigated disaster and it will only get much much worse as the new SEC coaches build their programs back up.
Since 2001, an LSU coach has lost more than three regular season games only THREE TIMES:
2002
2008
2014
All three of those teams had not only disasters at QB, but mediocre to bad LSU defenses by LSU standards.
With this Aranda defense and an Urban Meyer trained 4th year QB I see no way O survives if this team is added to that awful list.
Don’t fall into the same trap O and Prince used so successfully in 2016 and 2017.
This is a very talented LSU roster and only a complete failure to prepare it by O will have this team at 8-4 or below
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 2/7/19 at 4:23 pm to Tiger Ree
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That is like bullshite man. LSU signed five defensive tackles. Two moved to Oline leaving three DT's - all redshirted. One or both that were moved to offense can move back if needed.
This isnt a good thing brother.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 4:23 pm to SammyTiger
I think that most posters idea of what a 5 star and a 3 star player is. Is skewed. A 5 star is usually physically ready to compete while a 3 star needs to be brought along.
What's the difference between a 5 star freshman and a 3 star junior. real answer probably not much. I know that there's more to it but it's when they'll be able to compete.
LSU has had plenty of 3 star players that have been great players. To dismiss a group of players simply because they're 3 Stars is ridiculous.
What's the difference between a 5 star freshman and a 3 star junior. real answer probably not much. I know that there's more to it but it's when they'll be able to compete.
LSU has had plenty of 3 star players that have been great players. To dismiss a group of players simply because they're 3 Stars is ridiculous.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 4:27 pm to bencoleman
A 3 star junior and senior may be as good as a 5* freshmen, but that’s not the points
The point is we haven’t gotten guys to be 5* seniors, juniors and sophomores in 2020
And we’ll have to make due with 3* juniors/seniors and 5* freshmen.
Listen I’m not dismissing all of our DE after Fehoko and Lawrence
But statistically it’s unlike they’ll go from non factors to dominant in 2 years.
We had whole games were we played 4-5 DL.
The point is we haven’t gotten guys to be 5* seniors, juniors and sophomores in 2020
And we’ll have to make due with 3* juniors/seniors and 5* freshmen.
Listen I’m not dismissing all of our DE after Fehoko and Lawrence
But statistically it’s unlike they’ll go from non factors to dominant in 2 years.
We had whole games were we played 4-5 DL.
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 2/7/19 at 4:29 pm to tigerskin
2017 LSU gets pushed around by Miss St and loses to Troy. Previous coach is blamed because of lack of depth on lines
2018 LSU gets shut out at home vs Alabama. Previous coach is blamed because of lack of depth on the lines
2019 NSD LSU only gets 1 DL, whiffs on top DLman in State. No big deal because we only lost 1 guy from 2018 so 2019 DL will be fine
2018 LSU gets shut out at home vs Alabama. Previous coach is blamed because of lack of depth on the lines
2019 NSD LSU only gets 1 DL, whiffs on top DLman in State. No big deal because we only lost 1 guy from 2018 so 2019 DL will be fine
Posted on 2/7/19 at 4:30 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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But to pretend that the DL, or QB room for that matter, is any less “poorly constructed” looking ahead to 2020 than it was going into 2016 is either pure delusion or outright dishonesty.
are you still pretending that Lawrence and Fehoko went pro or something? What exactly are you laughing at?
Posted on 2/7/19 at 4:31 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Needs to die along with "I was told" and "I read on this site"
Total strawman arguments with no basis in fact. You can argue anything if all you have to do is say "I was told" when you really weren't told anything.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 4:33 pm to tigerskin
Very insightful article !
Posted on 2/7/19 at 4:37 pm to SammyTiger
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1. All American and all conference teams acknowledge the best players. We should want those players at ever position, and are competing with people who have those types of players.
Fair enough. But theres a huge difference between wanting those types of players at every position, as opposed to wanting every player we sign to be those players. Again, only a select few make those lists. There are a lot of teams with a lot of players. The percentage of players that makes those list are very very small.
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2. 5 stars making All American teams at a higher percentage than 3 and 4 stars means they’re more like to be great all American caliber players than 3 and 4 stars. Which means a team of 5 stars is much more likely to pan out than a team of 3*
When Bama does this we don’t blink, when people suggest LSU does it we get into “stars are overrated and we are picking diamonds in the rough”
Thats just a bunch of jibberish. There are more factors than just star rating. How many NFL hall of famers were 5* players coming out of high school vs 3* or 4*? Some guys are late bloomers. Maybe they need time to grow into their body, need better coaching, etc. But there are more factors than just star rating.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 4:38 pm to Lester Earl
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What exactly are you laughing at?
This:
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The talent is different but the numbers aren't far off
As if having numbers that “aren’t far off” is ok when the talent is in different stratospheres.
How far off were those numbers in 16 and 17 when you claim the roster was “poorly constructed”?
And for the record my comment was talking about looking down the road to 2020, not 2019.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 4:38 pm to tubucoco
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But LSU still has a lot of depth going into next season even though Bama has stockpiled their DLine again. You lose Alexander who I was hoping would come back, but Fehoko returns and then you have Shelvin, Cotton, Jenkins, Livingston, Siaka, Evans and Logan and Farrell who can swing both ways. That's a shite load of talent, you just wanna make sure you load up good next year with Guillory and Camron Jackson coming in and keep Bama away from them, also, get McKinley Jackson back in the fold along with others and they'll be fine.
Losing Sopsher was a loss I guess, but no one expected them to get the Siaka kid, I know I didn't. To tell you the truth I'd rather him than Sopsher because I think this Samoan kid is a stud and powerful and will be more effective than a Sopsher.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 4:38 pm to tigerskin
Hayride has no credibility. DNR.
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