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re: MBB - LSU 75 @ Vandy 61| Tigers Win! Tigers Win!

Posted on 3/2/24 at 4:47 pm to
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 4:47 pm to
Hannibal is gonna be hard to replace…
Posted by HighRoller
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
4284 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 4:49 pm to
Really hope CMM can get a veteran PG in the portal
Posted by Lsudave89
Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 4:51 pm to
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Hannibal is gonna be hard to replace…


Absolutely he is. Seems we usually have 1 or 2 each couple of years that grow and elevate their game like himsnd times up, interested to see who will be stepping up after he's departed.
Posted by tarzana
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 4:53 pm to
1st LSU won @ Vandy since 2016!
Posted by Wiseguy
Member since Mar 2020
3427 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 5:26 pm to
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interested to see who will be stepping up after he's departed.


Williams.
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
1912 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 5:27 pm to
The losses at FL and GA were huge and gettable wins. We were close. Win out. Make some noise in the SECT and you never know.. But this team will be dangerous in the NIT.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28598 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 5:55 pm to
Not a NIT team yet with A&M and Ole Miss unlikely to make the NCAA Tournament. They will get auto bids ahead of LSU if LSU remains behind them in the NET. Then it’s up to the NIT committee
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 5:57 pm to
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1st LSU won @ Vandy since 2016!


It's about time
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8186 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 6:14 pm to
McMahon does need to do a better job manipulating NET. Literally might have been what Wade was best at.

No reason we should be 30
Spots behind AM and 15 behind Ole Miss. Hire someone to do your schedule if you can’t figure it out.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 6:56 pm to
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They will get auto bids ahead of LSU if LSU remains behind them in the NET. Then it’s up to the NIT


We’re gonna be an at large bid if we win out imo
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2023
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 6:57 pm to
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McMahon does need to do a better job manipulating NET. Literally might have been what Wade was best at.


I agree with this. Wade was big on the NET ranking. A big reason why their net is so high at McNeese rn.

I really wish we had a different OOC schedule and a better NET as a result. We’d be knocking on door of the NCAAT bubble
This post was edited on 3/2/24 at 7:03 pm
Posted by Wiseguy
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 7:08 pm to
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McMahon does need to do a better job manipulating NET. Literally might have been what Wade was best at.


This is the one area where I think the Wade vs McMahon folks have a legitimate argument for Wade. He knew how to schedule to manipulate NET. I hope MM starts using similar algorithms to schedule.
Posted by Britgirl
Ascension
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 7:13 pm to
I think I prefer a longer run in the NIT, than lose in 1st or 2nd round of the NCAAT this season.
Would be fun to host the first game in the PMAC.
Posted by ShinerHorns
El Paso
Member since Jul 2021
4077 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 7:29 pm to
I think we are in the tournament after this W. This team has ZERO quit. Absolutely huge W!!
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2023
1976 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 7:37 pm to
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I think I prefer a longer run in the NIT, than lose in 1st or 2nd round of the NCAAT this season. Would be fun to host the first game in the PMAC


I agree with this, but it’s an unpopular opinion
Posted by BayouWolf
Member since Dec 2009
255 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 7:54 pm to
You aren’t rationale. Our OOC schedule was fine. Dayton, North Texas, Wake, K-St, UT were all very quality opponents. The loss vs Nicholls cost us 10-15 spots in NET. Simple as that. Still not a tourney team avoiding that Q4 loss. Would’ve taken winning 2-3 of Dayton (buzzer beater), @UGA, @FLA and vs A&M and it’s a very different profile with 2-3 more quad 1 wins and obviously impact on W-L record
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35487 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 7:57 pm to
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McMahon does need to do a better job manipulating NET. Literally might have been what Wade was best at.

No reason we should be 30
Spots behind AM and 15 behind Ole Miss. Hire someone to do your schedule if you can’t figure it out.
Everyone was complaining last year that we had a weak ooc schedule. Someone got the message and we bumped it up. Unfortunately we had early injuries and Cook was ineligible.

Other teams played weak ooc and were ranked earlier in the year. I think the whole NET argument is overrated if you can finish in the top 7 or 8 in the SEC.

Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28598 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 8:04 pm to
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You aren’t rationale. Our OOC schedule was fine. Dayton, North Texas, Wake, K-St, UT were all very quality opponents. The loss vs Nicholls cost us 10-15 spots in NET. Simple as that. Still not a tourney team avoiding that Q4 loss. Would’ve taken winning 2-3 of Dayton (buzzer beater), @UGA, @FLA and vs A&M and it’s a very different profile with 2-3 more quad 1 wins and obviously impact on W-L record


Mississippi State lost to Southern and they are 50 spots higher than LSU. The Nichols loss isn’t a killer. It’s the fact that LSU doesn’t have a good road/neutral record PLUS they are terrible in the predictive metrics (KenPom, BPI, KPI, etc).

The non-conf schedule wasn’t awful. LSU just did nothing against it. And their best road win (1 point victory at USC) doesn’t register as much because USC’s metrics are much worse than their record
Posted by Mats86
Member since Mar 2021
3719 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 8:06 pm to
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Hire someone to do your schedule if you can’t figure it out.

That’s exactly what wade did. I believe he contracted an analytics company to do it for him. Which is why the schedule seemed weaker in terms of big name schools, but always ended up looking better in the NET. I believe he mentioned it on the podcast he was doing before he was hired at Mcneese.
Posted by BayouWolf
Member since Dec 2009
255 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 8:19 pm to
We are saying the same thing. Did you looks at MSU resume - they beat Arizona St, Northwestern (tourney team), Washington St (5 seed), Rutgers and North Texas on neutral floor and then beat Tennessee and Auburn at home.
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