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re: Matt Canada Did Not Suck as OC
Posted on 1/12/18 at 8:13 am to moneyg
Posted on 1/12/18 at 8:13 am to moneyg
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The passing game was still poor.
What he was able to accomplish with Danny Freakin' Etling at QB and a very shaky squad of receivers was pretty impressive to me.
Look at the Bama game, his gameplan was getting receivers open - it was just a matter of them coming down with the ball.
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 11:22 am to bigjuice56
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What he was able to accomplish with Danny Freakin' Etling at QB and a very shaky squad of receivers was pretty impressive to me
Was it?
The 16 TDs vs 11 last year (in two fewer games) was impressive? Or, was the 60% completion percentage which was a gigantic .5% higher than last year what was impressive?
I'd classify it as marginally better than last year and well below the level any reasonable person would call good.
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Look at the Bama game, his gameplan was getting receivers open - it was just a matter of them coming down with the ball.
Bama is good. I don't think it's fair to summarize Canada based on his failures in that game. However, it is fair to recognize that our passing offense, which CLEARLY has been our weakness really didn't get any better.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 11:25 am to AlwysATgr
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The fact that Ed could not appreciate this is a reflection on Orgeron, not Canada.
If he was as big of an azzhole as people say,maybe he needs to look in the mirror.
This is no way exonerates O in all of that mess.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 11:26 am to AlwysATgr
He wasn't good enough to keep around and deal with the issues he had with other coaches.
Although I don't believe Ensminger was the best hire, it was the right decision to move on from Canada.
Although I don't believe Ensminger was the best hire, it was the right decision to move on from Canada.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 11:28 am to BlindTiger7
not a $ 3MM OC ...
and the problems may not be all with O or other coaches.
There has got to be a reason why he seldom lasts more than a year at one school.
and the problems may not be all with O or other coaches.
There has got to be a reason why he seldom lasts more than a year at one school.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 11:33 am to rbdallas
My god the smear campaign/revisionist history on Canada is pathetic. Everyone was fluffing O for the hire up until rumors started to leak about him leaving after year 1. His resume' really doesn't look significantly different than any other college OC. It's funny that the O pumpers point to his resume' as some proof that he's a bad egg, yet O was the one that could have done his due diligence and avoided that "bad egg" and saved us 3mil if he intended to tap his buddy for the job anyway.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 11:37 am to AlwysATgr
quote:You are what your record shows.
Matt Canada Did Not Suck as OC
If Canada didn't suck, then neither did Miles.
All but one of Miles LSU offenses(2009) scored more ppg than 2017. /thread
Posted on 1/12/18 at 11:37 am to lsu2006
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His resume' really doesn't look significantly different than any other college OC. It's funny that the O pumpers point to his resume' as some proof that he's a bad egg, yet O was the one that could have done his due diligence and avoided that "bad egg" and saved us 3mil if he intended to tap his buddy for the job anyway.
sorry but I have said that all along ...
I will seldom hire some one who is a "job jumper" .. there should always be concern as there are usually reasons beyond the obvious.
$ 3MM for his offense ... not worthy
SE's promotion, raises questions, but only time will tell.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 11:40 am to lsu2006
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point to his resume' as some proof that he's a bad egg,
People are looking at his track record as a nomad...not his stats. It is weird that he can't seem to land somewhere and take roots.
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saved us 3mil if he intended to tap his buddy for the job anyway.
I don't believe he wanted SE all along...that doesn't make sense....except maybe to the most staunch conspiracy theorists.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 11:48 am to RedTigerRulz
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People are looking at his track record as a nomad...not his stats. It is weird that he can't seem to land somewhere and take roots.
No it isn't. It's extremely common for offensive coordinators to jump around. Either way, he's had extended stays at multiple schools.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 11:48 am to Tigerbait357
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What is happening now is exactly how his Ole Miss adventure went
He has won a lot more games than he did at Ole Miss.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 11:50 am to RedTigerRulz
quote:Not really. OCs and DCs, especially good ones, are usually upwardly mobile. They do move around. There is a lot of MC bashing that is totally uninformed “just because” nonsense. Being used to distract from our own HC’s nomadic and destructive past.
It is weird that he can't seem to land somewhere and take roots.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 11:55 am to AlwysATgr
Let's just chalk up Canada as just one of the many blunders in Os illustrious head coaching career. Many more to come too!
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:07 pm to Brazos
We played some of the worst assembled SEC teams that have been fielded in 2017. Tennessee, Arkansas, Ole Miss, and Florida were all worse this year than they have fielded a team in their recent years. BYU was terrible and as an offense we hardly even threw the ball at all. We never were within double-digits of Alabama and we got blown out by Miss State and lost to Troy. The offense in those three regular season losses were embarrassing.
I think Canada could have been better with Brennan in 2018, but he was paid to go away by an unproven head coach who has zero leeway to dump coordinators which tells you just how horrible he is to work with.
Not a fan of Ensminger, but it clearly was a bad fit with Canada.
I think Canada could have been better with Brennan in 2018, but he was paid to go away by an unproven head coach who has zero leeway to dump coordinators which tells you just how horrible he is to work with.
Not a fan of Ensminger, but it clearly was a bad fit with Canada.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:13 pm to AlwysATgr
Did not do as well as S. E.
54 th in the Country is nothing to be proud of
The only easy day was. Yesterday
54 th in the Country is nothing to be proud of
The only easy day was. Yesterday
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:27 pm to ipodking
quote:His red zone offense was #4 in TD% in 2016, #10 in 2015, and #4 in 2014.
His red zone offense was pathetic
All signs point to Etling/Orgeron being a major thorn in his otherwise impressive resume.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:29 pm to AlwysATgr
Easy solution.....if he gets another job, go be a fan of that team. Done.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:43 pm to JawjaTigah
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Not really. OCs and DCs, especially good ones, are usually upwardly mobile. They do move around. There is a lot of MC bashing that is totally uninformed “just because” nonsense.
while I may agree somewhat .. too many "rumors" that he had trouble with other coaches at the other stops as well..
couple that with no other school ever really fighting to keep him .. ???
my impression is, he has a huge ego and thinks he is already deserving of being HC.
he might one day, but certainly not there yet
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:44 pm to AlwysATgr
He was average but his offense relied too heavily on finesse and "eye candy" as Saban called it. In addition, Canada was a Cancer and had trouble getting along with other members of the staff, not just Orgeron. He was a back stabber and caused some rifts in the staff. I KNOW this to be a fact.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:47 pm to AlwysATgr
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The fact that Ed could not appreciate this is a reflection on Orgeron, not Canada.
How do you know that O didn't recognize that Canada didn't suck? What I am hearing is that Canada sucking had nothing to do with him being let go.
Like the decisions or not, Canada sucking wasn't the reason for him and LSU parting ways.
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