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re: Mark May on SportsCenter...

Posted on 10/8/11 at 10:55 pm to
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 10:55 pm to
That's looking at it with LSU blinders on. Being objective he clearly was "taunting" UF players. Was it worth the TD being removed? frick no.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63590 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 10:56 pm to
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When he blatantly threw his arms up while looking at members of the opposing team. Pretty obvious call. Sorry if it's too hard to comprehend for the "voice of reason."


If that silly gesture constitutes "taunting" then let's just call it a day for any kind of emotion or enthusiasm in football. Honestly, that was absolutely nothing. God have mercy. Have today's young people turned into pussies?
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63111 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 10:58 pm to
I just remembered that I posted in the thread about the new "can't see me" cheer thread. I said they should do something like to signify "don't care".

I guess Brad was reading
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21459 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 10:59 pm to
it was not "egregious" (sp?) like the rule called for...
Posted by irish thug 527
Member since Apr 2008
553 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 11:00 pm to
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If that silly gesture constitutes "taunting" then let's just call it a day for any kind of emotion or enthusiasm in football. Honestly, that was absolutely nothing. God have mercy. Have today's young people turned into pussies?


Not at all. Actually, I'm pretty sure a bunch of middle aged white guys like yourself implemented the stupid rule. I hate excessive celebration penalties, I think they're extremely subjective and unfair. The new call is if he hasn't entered the end zone, correct? He can still taunt, just don't do it on the way to the end zone and the touchdown stands. Pretty simple.
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2003
5367 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 11:00 pm to
I think the question is now, was is nonegregious taunting?

Cuz damn that was the weakest taunt I have ever seen and they are supposed to save that for egregious taunting.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 11:01 pm to
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No. Terrible rule? Yes.


Yeah, it's a terrible rule but gimme a break. The refs make judgments on nearly every rule in the book. Otherwise, there's be 50 penalties per game.

That damned "celebration" lasted about 1/4 of a second. At normal speed, if you blinked, you missed it.

It was an asinine call.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60393 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 11:02 pm to
That was not egregious
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 11:02 pm to
CFB needs to hold the same rule as NFL. IDGAF if someone does the "LSU Leap" and jumps into the student section.
Posted by PnG Exsanguination
About 5 miles from Tiger Stadium
Member since Jul 2008
2768 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 11:03 pm to
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When he blatantly threw his arms up while looking at members of the opposing team. Pretty obvious call. Sorry if it's too hard to comprehend for the "voice of reason."

Blatantly throwing your arms up while looking at members of an opposing team isn't taunting, per the NCAA. Here's the section of the rules that involve gestures:
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(a) Pointing the finger(s), hand(s), arm(s) or ball at an opponent, or imitating the slashing of the throat.

I think his motion actually specifically avoided doing any of these. At that point, it becomes a judgement call. A "taunt" that lasts such a short amount of time that it's only really visible in slow motion would seem to set a ridiculously low threshold for the judgement call. Seeing how TM7 wasn't called at all for any of his:
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(b) Taunting, baiting or ridiculing an opponent verbally.
Then the rules are being applied unevenly.
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
4512 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 11:04 pm to
The announcers mentioned it not being able to be egregious, but when the SEC official said it was the correct call, they posted the written rule on screen and it said nothing about having to be egregious.

It was a taunt, even if the simplest kind. I took it as looking over at the Florida players and saying, look at me, I'm running free and you can't get me.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 11:06 pm to
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It was a taunt, even if the simplest kind.
If they call that a taunt, then there should be 100 flags per game for taunting.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 11:07 pm to
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If they call that a taunt, then there should be 100 flags per game for taunting.


This.
Posted by PnG Exsanguination
About 5 miles from Tiger Stadium
Member since Jul 2008
2768 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 11:07 pm to
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It was a taunt, even if the simplest kind. I took it as looking over at the Florida players and saying, look at me, I'm running free and you can't get me.
That's not one of the defined taunts in the NCAA regulation.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63590 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 11:08 pm to
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Not at all. Actually, I'm pretty sure a bunch of middle aged white guys like yourself implemented the stupid rule. I hate excessive celebration penalties, I think they're extremely subjective and unfair. The new call is if he hasn't entered the end zone, correct? He can still taunt, just don't do it on the way to the end zone and the touchdown stands. Pretty simple.


So, what you're saying is . . . today's young people are turning into pussies.

And yes, I said in other threads that a bunch of middle aged white guys (and, yes, white guys are more likely to have a stick up their butt) made the rule to feel good about themselves. Nevertheless, the idea that points are essentially taken off of the board for that "infraction" cannot be defended.
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
4512 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 11:10 pm to
So describe to me the 100 flags that were taunts that weren't called.
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 11:11 pm to
They're saying every time someone scores and show emotion and jumps or makes any kind of gesture.
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
4512 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 11:11 pm to
You posted the rules yourself:

(a) Pointing the finger(s), hand(s), arm(s) or ball at an opponent, or imitating the slashing of the throat.

ARMS, ARMS, he threw his arms out as if to say look at me.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63590 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 11:12 pm to
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So describe to me the 100 flags that were taunts that weren't called.


You talking to me?
Posted by TheShwenz
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2008
1381 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 11:12 pm to
Penalizing it isn't that uncalled for, but taking the TD off the board is like trying to kill an ant with a bazooka. Just complete overkill and frustrates the hell out of me no matter what the score.
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