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re: LSU Team Defense Rankings since 2016 (since Aranda has been here)

Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:26 am to
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175754 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:26 am to
Chavis’ rankings his first 4 seasons:

27
12
2
8

Posted by agie0320
oviedo, fl
Member since Jul 2009
185 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:30 am to
The defense is on the field more this year. We are 50th for time of possession. Prior to this year we were top 20 for TOP
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:38 am to
BRING BACK LES MILES!!!!!
Posted by SCP
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2016
1337 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:39 am to
Defense on field more.
Opponents have to be aggressive to counter deficits.
Defense loses focus when they can be bailed out by offense.
Poor tackling.
Mental mistakes.
Personnel.
Coaching.
All of these and more may contribute.
I am sure that Orgeron and Aranda are not happy.
As a fan, I am joyful about our team and our current standing. If you are not, I feel bad for you.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
88950 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:45 am to
quote:

2018 38th


WRONG

we were 68th and that TAMu game beefed up that stat. it was worse without all the OT's

where do you get 38?


LINK
Posted by tjohn deaux
GA
Member since Feb 2007
10394 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:47 am to
So he came in as a great DC, but just isn't innovative enough to stay great.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
88950 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:47 am to
chavis # 2 D sucks!

will muschamp w/saban #1 D sucks

pellini with 3 straight # 3 defenses sucks

WHO YA GONNA GET??????????
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15905 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 10:06 am to
What was our defensive ranking in 2014 & 2015, so we have some perspective
Posted by Tigris Christi
Member since Jul 2016
2127 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 10:12 am to
But you're also assuming no other teams around the country's offenses are consistently getting better. This isn't a base metric it is a comparative stat relative to other defenses.

Also when you are the highest paid DC you BETTER have at least a top 10 defense.
Posted by KC Tiger
Member since Sep 2006
4912 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 10:17 am to
quote:

I think Dave is encouraged to find greener pastures after this year


Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
88950 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 10:25 am to
quote:

What was our defensive ranking in 2014 & 2015, so we have some perspective




2014: 9-chavis last year

2015: 25- steeles 1 year
Posted by Kimist
Member since Nov 2011
511 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 10:30 am to
quote:

2016: 5th ranked defense
2017: 14th ranked defense
2018: 26th ranked defense
2019: 44th ranked defense


This does it for me. Whether it's players or scheme, it's Amanda's responsibility. He should have his players there by now, and we're in a serious defensive decline.

Compare this with Canada's offense. He was supposed to be a guru too, but we quickly figured out that the motions were just a gimmick ggat didn't fool anyone. They made it harder on our players to perform without confusing the opposing defense.

I think it's just taken us longer to learn the same about Aranda. Wrong pllayers, gimmick scheme that everyone has figured out, and is hurting us.
Posted by TigerBlitz03
New Iberia
Member since Nov 2008
1324 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 1:01 pm to
Downward trend....Eject, Eject.
Posted by Buga
Member since Dec 2013
1615 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14863 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

Part of me wonders. Did it get hard to land top defensive talent when kids started to give up on our offense? I say that as a note of optimism. Maybe kids will want to play defense for us now that they know they don't have to carry the team.



Bingo!

We whiffed on a lot of defensive talent lately (especially in state talent). Part of that was due to us not winning anything and I know many here won’t like to hear this but part of it was due to hiring Ed Orgeron as our head coach. His past stint as head coach was used heavily against us in recruiting. Other coaches were really talking shite about him and saying he was going to tank LSU big time. They were wrong apparently and now go take a look at the recruits we have committed this year. We have some very nasty defensive players committed and a lot of them. If I’m 2 years, we are still having defensive issue, then we can talk about moving on from Aranda.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
88950 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

but we quickly figured out that the motions were just a gimmick


only to morons like u

so all these coaches that use motion are dumb? do you even know the two things it accomplishes?

CUM's power spread was called a gimmick also.

never seen you here before. try to stay caught up. study film. stop being so damn football stupid like many here. fack man. we killed teams using horizontal stretch plays with motion. do you even know what that sets up? educate yourself before posting here again.
Posted by Pauldean
Red Stick by way of Syracuse
Member since Oct 2011
2640 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 1:18 pm to
LOL the dude said Canada's offense was gimmicky.
Not that motion offenses were gimmicky.

Given that Canada was fired after a year, and probably should've left sooner, soft of lends itself to his point.

Get off your high horse.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50792 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 1:19 pm to
I posted THIS a month ago, but I used actual NCAA rankings, not some sports site's rankings. At the time, LSU had the 15th ranked total defense.

Now they are 47, not 44.

It's worse than you thought.
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