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Posted on 5/11/23 at 7:42 am to FightingTigers138
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looks like she is doing a good job.
Doesn't look to hot in SeC play.
Posted on 5/11/23 at 8:14 am to goatmilker
You guys ought to see the players coming in 2023 and 2024!
Posted on 5/11/23 at 9:05 am to Mickey53
This is the Nikki Fargas scenario all over again...."oh, she's not that bad, we're doing okay".
Why settle for mediocrity? Shouldn't we seriously be wanting to win championships year after year. It seems the softball program and many of its' followers are content with reaching the playoffs and/or NCAAA Tournament.
ONE AND DONE IS NOT GOOD EN0UGH!
Why settle for mediocrity? Shouldn't we seriously be wanting to win championships year after year. It seems the softball program and many of its' followers are content with reaching the playoffs and/or NCAAA Tournament.
ONE AND DONE IS NOT GOOD EN0UGH!
Posted on 5/11/23 at 3:08 pm to Mats86
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Odd statement considering the baseball coach is only in his second season and has been to the postseason. Meanwhile, the baseball team has been in the last 10 regionals.
My error is not clarifying the data. I meant to contrast Coach Torino's record to the Men's Baseball teams record over Torino's tenure.
I'm a BIG fan of Jay Johnson, and anticipate many trips to the CWS over the next decade or more.
Here are the stats to compare: (excluding 2020 Covid year)
Torino. 10/10 post-season appearances (100%)
7/10 Super-regional appearances (70%)
4/10 WCWS appearances (40%)
Now looking at the combined records of the last three men's coaches, including CJJ's one and only year:
Laval/Manieri/Johnson - 17/20 post-season appearances (85%)
12/20 Super-regional appearances (60%)
7/20. CWS appearances (35%)
Obviously, I left at out the record of the incomparable GOAT Bergman, with a CWS appearance rate of over 60%. Those were different time.
After looking at the stats, I'm quite impressed with the dominance of LSU baseball and softball, and expect more championships to be added to their resumes.
But for those calling for Coach Torino to be replaced, she has a slightly better record than all the men's coaches since Bertman.
If anyone has any data on Torino's LSU record vs all other current softball coaches over the last decade, that would be interesting info.
Posted on 5/11/23 at 3:18 pm to TheLoupGarou
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Coach Torino's
You could start by spelling her name correctly
Posted on 5/12/23 at 12:53 am to TheLoupGarou
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Now looking at the combined records of the last three men's coaches, including CJJ's one and only year:
Laval/Manieri/Johnson - 17/20 post-season appearances (85%)
12/20 Super-regional appearances (60%)
7/20. CWS appearances (35%)
Obviously, I left at out the record of the incomparable GOAT Bergman, with a CWS appearance rate of over 60%. Those were different time.
Complete idiocy in your "stats". Have you not seen the roster building JJ has done? He was hired in late June 2021 inheriting PM's depleted roster. I don't give a shite, Torina should have her program in a better situation than it's at given her tenure and funding. Her teams are not performing to what she should be at this point. She needs to make some changes to compete at a higher level or move on. JJ will have more meaningful skins on the wall the next 4 seasons while she had a 10+ year advantage on him.
Posted on 5/12/23 at 6:39 am to BilbeauTBaggins
So she’s a tad over .500 in the SEC. If Jay Johnson has this same record in 5 years what would happen?????
You Torina fan boys are so desperate to make her a good coach with the resources she has. It’s funny.
You Torina fan boys are so desperate to make her a good coach with the resources she has. It’s funny.
Posted on 5/12/23 at 7:10 am to LSUSkip
15-15 is not really good. It’s actually dead average and it’s failing for LSU.
Posted on 5/12/23 at 8:19 am to oj
Yeah but you needed that game against Ole Miss to try and secure home field for that regional
Maybe they still get it based on high rpi with only a 6th place finish in sec
Maybe they still get it based on high rpi with only a 6th place finish in sec
Posted on 5/12/23 at 8:31 am to Tigersonfire
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You Torina fan boys are so desperate to make her a good coach with the resources she has. It’s funny.
Torina is the 5th highest paid coach in the SEC and only just slightly higher than Lawson at Kentucky. I couldn’t find good data on revenues or budgets, but for 2013-2017, the average annual expenses for SEC schools was around $2M and LSU was at $2.3M. Most of you wanting to fire Torina keep talking about all the great resources she has, but produce no evidence that the resources she has at her disposal are anything more than the other top SEC schools.
This post was edited on 5/12/23 at 8:32 am
Posted on 5/12/23 at 8:34 am to nicholastiger
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Yeah but you needed that game against Ole Miss to try and secure home field for that regional Maybe they still get it based on high rpi with only a 6th place finish in sec
LSU will host a regional. What was at stake was the chance at a Top 8 seed and a clear path to hosting a super regional.
Posted on 5/12/23 at 8:37 am to MikeTheTiger71
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LSU will host a regional. What was at stake was the chance at a Top 8 seed and a clear path to hosting a super regional.
It was a dead certainty that LSU was hosting a regional even had they lost to Ole Miss 25-0.
LSU would not have been a top 8 seed/hosting a super even if they would have won the SECT. Not a chance in hell.
This post was edited on 5/12/23 at 9:20 am
Posted on 5/12/23 at 9:19 am to timlan2057
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LSU would not have been a top 8 seed/hosting a super even if they would have won the SECT. Not a chance in hell.
I think you underestimate the degree to which the committee relies on RPI. They may not have ended Top 8, but it was certainly within the realm of possibility given their RPI. They were #6 before the Ole Miss loss. Oklahoma, UCLA, FSU, Oklahoma St and Stanford would definitely have stayed ahead of them based on RPI with Tennessee and Georgia ahead of them based on rankings and conference standings. That would have put LSU at #8. That leaves Washington (#13 RPI), Duke (# 7 RPI before LSU lost), Texas (#9 RPI), Clemson (#14 RPI) and the SEC schools that finished slightly higher in conference but are well below LSU in RPI. None of those schools have such a strong position in other ways that I’m convinced the committee wouldn’t have placed LSU higher based on RPI. More than likely you are right that the tournament just didn’t matter, but I wouldn’t go so far as to say there was no chance of Top 8.
Posted on 5/12/23 at 9:24 am to oj
quote:we’ve never won the SEC under Beth. There was like a 5 year stretch back in the early 2000s where we won it and the SECt every year.
Look at the Sec record
Haven’t even been back to the WCWS since 2017 and she had us there regularly for a short stint. Not cutting it anymore if you’re just middle of the pack in your conference. Wasn’t good enough for Paul Mainieri and he actually won a championship here.
Posted on 5/12/23 at 9:26 am to LSUSkip
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Even in baseball, 15-15 in the SEC is still a really good year.
For who… Missouri? Not for LSU
Posted on 5/12/23 at 9:27 am to Who_Dat_Tiger
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we’ve never won the SEC under Beth. There was like a 5 year stretch back in the early 2000s where we won it and the SECt every year.
Yes, back when no one else in the conference was taking softball seriously. The SEC was not a legitimate softball conference back then. That’s hardly a standard for judging anything.
Posted on 5/12/23 at 9:33 am to MikeTheTiger71
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LSU would not have been a top 8 seed/hosting a super even if they would have won the SECT. Not a chance in hell.
The one guy who does a legitimate softball bracketology has LSU #7 right now. Top 8 is absolutely a possibility.
Posted on 5/12/23 at 9:44 am to LSUNV
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Middle of the pack in the SEC
Which I'm fine with. This is the best we'll be under Torina,however
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