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LSUGrrrl
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re: LSU responds to Wade: “Will and his folks ... not denied any wrongdoing.”
I do.


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EA6B
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re: LSU responds to Wade: “Will and his folks ... not denied any wrongdoing.”
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That was an example I used. We all know he was talking about money. The issue is, you can’t prove it just with his statements on tape BECAUSE IT’S POSSIBLE HE WASN’T REFERING TO MONEY. It creates a shadow of doubt. That’s all that’s needed to be found innocent in court.


This is not a court of law. with a private business, a corporation, or in this case a university and a private regulatory organization it is the exact opposite. All you have to do is give the suspicion that you were engaging in prohibited activity based on the rules of your employer and its regulatory organization, rules that you agreed to when you were hired. Taking Dawkins call would be enough to raise suspicion regardless of how you want to parse what was said. Wade had no legitimate reason to even talk to Dawkins.


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jdd48
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re: LSU responds to Wade: “Will and his folks ... not denied any wrongdoing.”
LSU just SUCKS at basic public relations. Always has. Way to throw your own coach under the bus. Why in the blue hell would you release a statement like this?? Let's say this proves to be a whole lot of bull shite. What incentive does he have to come back now knowing that the university doesn't have his back??
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omegaman66
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re: LSU responds to Wade: “Will and his folks ... not denied any wrongdoing.”
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They're still waiting on a meeting with him and his lawyer. Having his lawyer wasn't an issue. His lawyer wanted to limit the scope of questioning/have questions beforehand and the university said no. His lawyer also didn't want the NCAA there and for whatever reason they were going to be there with the University's permission. Whether the NCAA asked to be there or was invited doesn't seem to be to clear right now. Just to clarify your incorrect clarification.



And the University said NO. Your words.


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BillyBobfan24_7
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stop making shite up


You think the NCAA just showed up and said "hey are you boys meeting with Coach Wade today?"


Lester Earl
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I think they were in contact with LSU the minute the report came out


LSUfanaddict
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re: LSU responds to Wade: “Will and his folks ... not denied any wrongdoing.”
It is obvious BY HIS OWN WORDS, that he: offered a player, his mother, and a third party, a "share of the pie in the deal." That is OBVIOUSLY a violation of NCAA RULES.

His arse should be fired. Period.

The problem I see is what involvement the university could possibly have played, for where would he get the means to carry out the offer?

This whole situation is a clusterfrick and I might just be completely done with LSU as a fan.


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Lester Earl
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Kansas basketball now being investigated by NCAA


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BillyBobfan24_7
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No, I'm not.
So LSU asking to meet with Wade to discuss allegations is NOT due process to you?

Yea, ok.



LSU has not shown once that they have Will Wade's best interest in mind. It has been a 100% pin the tail on the donkey operation.


BillyBobfan24_7
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And when nobody wants to coach here because the university admin tried to harpoon the coach by calling in the NCAA when only circumstantial evidence is involved and we still get sanctioned to death if anything does come from this, did they really protect the university? Or just try to cover their own ass?


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shel311
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re: LSU responds to Wade: “Will and his folks ... not denied any wrongdoing.”
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There isn’t a power 5 coach out there that can deny the question “did your players get paid” without lying.


So there's something to deny, which was my point to the post I was replying to.


shel311
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And all the Bama fans who are screaming about Wade being guilty would be defending Saban.

It’s irrelevant
No, it shows that fans of teams will make terrible points with no logic to support their side.


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BillyBobfan24_7
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But if the NCAA wants to "make an example out of us" then our administration needs to do absolutely everything they can to avoid getting a death sentence. Given the aforementioned corruption of the NCAA, I don't think perceived concern over the matter can be understated.


We don't have to worry about the NCAA the admin is giving us the death penalty either way. No one worth a shite will want to come coach here.


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BillyBobfan24_7
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They're still waiting on a meeting with him and his lawyer. Having his lawyer wasn't an issue. His lawyer wanted to limit the scope of questioning/have questions beforehand and the university said no. His lawyer also didn't want the NCAA there and for whatever reason they were going to be there with the University's permission. Whether the NCAA asked to be there or was invited doesn't seem to be to clear right now. Just to clarify your incorrect clarification.


Thanks, Joe. The current public statement battle looks really professional, btw.


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BillyBobfan24_7
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The NCAA has zero grounds to punish us for waiting until facts come out.
The NCAA has zero grounds to punish us if it's proven our coach was paying players?


It's like you have blinders on.


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shel311
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re: LSU responds to Wade: “Will and his folks ... not denied any wrongdoing.”
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LSU has not shown once that they have Will Wade's best interest in mind. It has been a 100% pin the tail on the donkey operation.
when your coach is potentially saying shady shite on FBI wiretaps, the school should obviously do what's best for the school first and not thag coach. What kind of bizarro world are we living in here?


BillyBobfan24_7
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re: LSU responds to Wade: “Will and his folks ... not denied any wrongdoing.”
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With the caveat that I am not a fan of the NCAA or Joe Alleva, this entire process is a charade meant to protect LSU and Will Wade. Given the comments made by Wade on the wire tap, LSU had no choice but to suspend Wade. The failure to meet with LSU administration officials is simply a ruse for the suspension. Any information that LSU were to obtain from Wade would have to be turned over to the NCAA. Wade knows that and LSU knows that. LSU and Wade are both right in handling it this way


That's giving LSU a lot of credit. I hope you are right but the current public back and forth between the two parties doesn't make this seem likely.


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BillyBobfan24_7
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That he immediately took the call from Dawkins, and they obviously knew each other. Dawkins is not a registered sports agent, and anyone in college basketball coaching would know he was involved with directing money from shoe companies to players, he didn't call to just discuss the weather.



The LSU admin knows he paid to get players here. It's part of the current job description just look at the numbers of coaches and universities either directly involved or indirectly(Duke). That's not the point. The NCAA cant prove shite unless Wade either admits it or they find the money.


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jdd48
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re: LSU responds to Wade: “Will and his folks ... not denied any wrongdoing.”
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when your coach is potentially saying shady shite on FBI wiretaps, the school should obviously do what's best for the school first and not thag coach. What kind of bizarro world are we living in here?


There's MUCH better ways to do it. You'd hope the LSU administration would have learned from past recent public relations disasters, but apparently they haven't. You never, ever let outside parties drive the narrative. They've done exactly that, plus they've thrown their own employee to the wolves in the process.


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Tom Bronco
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re: LSU responds to Wade: “Will and his folks ... not denied any wrongdoing.”
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I bet all these LSU fans saying this would be saying the same exact thing if these FBI wiretaps were about Saban, amirite?



And all the Bama fans who are screaming about Wade being guilty would be defending Saban.

It’s irrelevant.


Exactly. We are dealing with a real situation and you wnat to bring a non existent one into the discussion and act like it has an equal place.


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