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re: LSU removes cross from Painted Posse

Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:07 pm to
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:07 pm to
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they kicked me out


Word is, max put in the black ball.
Posted by manwich
You've wanted my
Member since Oct 2008
52605 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:08 pm to
-it's LSU's policy.
-it doesn't censor anyone.
-no one's rights are violated.
-LSU owns the picture.
-it's in the university's best interest.
-the people complaining about political correctness are naive/the problem
-there was almost zero effort involved to do this
-LSU does this with lots of symbols.



this is how the thread will end. it's been done before
This post was edited on 10/18/12 at 12:10 pm
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63246 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:09 pm to
I imagine they were just preempting the bitching from some martyr atheist that would have inevitably felt threatened and offended.

These guys should ask them to remove the picture. It is an intentional misrepresentation. 3rd parties should not be upset about this (i.e. all of us), but anyone who says the people involved don't have a right to be has an agenda. Simple as that.
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
3619 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:09 pm to
LSU's actions were not warranted. Disseminating an unretouched photo of this sort can in no way be interpreted as endorsing a religion. For example, if a Catholic priest happened to be in the background are you saying LSU is obligated to airbrush out is cleric's collar otherwise it would be endorsing Catholicism? The fact that you and many others even think that demonstrates that people do need to speak up and complain when this happens. The person responsible for the retouched photo is either afraid of the ACLU, uncomfortable with minor, public displays of faith, or both.
Posted by manwich
You've wanted my
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:10 pm to
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3rd parties should not be upset about this
everyone thinks their opinion matters. it's kind of sad
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101707 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:10 pm to
What the hell are they supposed to be spelling out on their painted chests, anyway? ONT????
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29209 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:11 pm to
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The312


Captain Rhetoric. You probably think it is in the constitution somewhere too.

You know for a fact they were "whining" and "lamenting."

I don't have a problem with removing it though. LSU would get more grief from idiots like 312 and his ACLU buddies by leaving it there.
Posted by manwich
You've wanted my
Member since Oct 2008
52605 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:12 pm to
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LSU's actions were not warranted
quote:

The person responsible for the retouched photo is either afraid of the ACLU, uncomfortable with minor, public displays of faith, or both.

it's school policy. wake up. this isn't the 50's anymore. this is pretty standard procedure for public and private institutions
This post was edited on 10/18/12 at 12:13 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101707 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:13 pm to
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LSU's actions were not warranted. Disseminating an unretouched photo of this sort can in no way be interpreted as endorsing a religion. For example, if a Catholic priest happened to be in the background are you saying LSU is obligated to airbrush out is cleric's collar otherwise it would be endorsing Catholicism? The fact that you and many others even think that demonstrates that people do need to speak up and complain when this happens. The person responsible for the retouched photo is either afraid of the ACLU, uncomfortable with minor, public displays of faith, or both.


Unless you explicitly know otherwise, in just glancing at the picture as unretouched, I would have no idea that those were even meant to be a religious reference.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96045 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:14 pm to
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What the hell are they supposed to be spelling out on their painted chests, anyway? ONT????


was wondering this too.
Posted by 2011tiger14
Austin by way of Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
304 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:14 pm to
If people didn't think their opinion mattered, we wouldn't have TD. A place like this runs off of people's opinions. Whether they matter or not to you, they still make the world go round.
Posted by manwich
You've wanted my
Member since Oct 2008
52605 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:15 pm to
this place sounds like a nursery 90% of the time
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
3619 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:16 pm to
So, because this isn't the 1950s, the school is required to expunge minor religious symbols from its photos so that it wouldn't be endorsing a religion? That doesn't make sense and you know it.
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
3619 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:16 pm to
So, because this isn't the 1950s, the school is required to expunge minor religious symbols from its photos so that it wouldn't be endorsing a religion? That doesn't make sense and you know it.
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
3619 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:16 pm to
So, because this isn't the 1950s, the school is required to expunge minor religious symbols from its photos so that it wouldn't be endorsing a religion? That doesn't make sense and you know it.
Posted by Herschal
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2011
1575 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:17 pm to
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There is no back to student tickets, or anywhere on the face of the ticket that says their photo can be altered


Whats your point?

It does not say their photo cannot be altered either
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
3619 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:17 pm to
Sorry, I don't know what happened to my computer and why it posted 3 times.
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61837 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:18 pm to
It's OMT. They were paying homage to me at this game.
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
24384 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:20 pm to
It's censorship and it's wrong.
Posted by The312
I Live in The Three One Two
Member since Aug 2008
6967 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

Captain Rhetoric. You probably think it is in the constitution somewhere too.

You know for a fact they were "whining" and "lamenting."

I don't have a problem with removing it though. LSU would get more grief from idiots like 312 and his ACLU buddies by leaving it there.


LOL. What in the lord's name are you talking about in this post? I am always baffled by posters who respond to perfectly rational statements with ridiculous ad hominem bluster. This is very straightforward. LSU has an ironclad contractual right to alter the photograph as it sees fit. It exercised that right to eliminate a religious symbol from a formal promotional communication of the university. One can argue about whether or not LSU was strictly obligated to remove the crosses from the communication - but it's obvious that the LSU administators felt it was the wiser course. I agree. The students have absolutely no standing to complain, given that they consented to the terms of the ticket when they utilized it. In sum, LSU acted legally and wisely.

Why are people complaining about this?
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