re: LSU QB battle is in its second week and Max Johnson is taking the 1st team snaps

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I think he’s saying Max doesn’t think burning down cities is peaceful or that men are women just because they wear a dress....but it could be anything!

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I took it as a belief that Max won't be susceptible to kneeling or embracing the BLM bullshite while in uniform.

And I am of that mind also.

Max is the man to beat!!!

Damn stats don't lie

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LoL

Myles Brennan 3 games (1-2)
29/48 430 60.4% 4TD 0int 2 sacks 163.2 rat 74.1 QBR
23/37 337 62.2% 4TD 1int 0 sacks 168.9 rat 75.3 QBR
27/46 345 58.7% 3TD 2int 7 sacks 134.5 rat 45.1 QBR
79/131 1,112 60.3% 11TD 3int 9 sacks 154.7 rat 63.6 QBR

Max Johnson 5 games (2-3)
27/51 435 52.9% 3TD 1int 1 sack 140.1 rat 59.6 QBR
21/36 239 58.3% 3TD 0int 2 sacks 141.6 rat 64.1 QBR
11/17 110 64.7% 0TD 0int 1 sack 119.1 rat 73.2 QBR
14/22 113 63.6% 1TD 0int 3 sacks 121.8 rat 39.4 QBR
15/24 172 62.5% 1TD 0int 2 sacks 136.5 rat 31.6 QBR
88/150 1,069 58.7% 8TD 1int 9 sacks 134.8 rat 59.1 QBR


Even with Max getting his playing time as the team gelled, Myles had more yds, better completion %, more TDs per game (in fact Myles threw more TDs in each game, than Max did in his best games), same number of sacks, higher passer rating and QBR, (despite Max being the better runner).

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You left off some important stats.

Max netted 119 Yds rushing with 2 rushing TD's.
Brennan netted -36 yds and no TD's.

With our O-line having trouble, Max's ability to move better in the pocket, and to run, is a big advantage over Brennan.

Thats true, but Maxs legs don't make up for Brennans added passing skills. And the OLine should be very good this season. No excuses.

I'd be shocked if Myles isnt the guy this season with Max taking the reigns next year. I'm praying TJ heads to Nicholls

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Myles Brennan 3 games (1-2)
29/48 430 60.4% 4TD 0int 2 sacks 163.2 rat 74.1 QBR
23/37 337 62.2% 4TD 1int 0 sacks 168.9 rat 75.3 QBR
27/46 345 58.7% 3TD 2int 7 sacks 134.5 rat 45.1 QBR
79/131 1,112 60.3% 11TD 3int 9 sacks 154.7 rat 63.6 QBR

Max Johnson 5 games (2-3)
27/51 435 52.9% 3TD 1int 1 sack 140.1 rat 59.6 QBR
21/36 239 58.3% 3TD 0int 2 sacks 141.6 rat 64.1 QBR
11/17 110 64.7% 0TD 0int 1 sack 119.1 rat 73.2 QBR
14/22 113 63.6% 1TD 0int 3 sacks 121.8 rat 39.4 QBR
15/24 172 62.5% 1TD 0int 2 sacks 136.5 rat 31.6 QBR
88/150 1,069 58.7% 8TD 1int 9 sacks 134.8 rat 59.1 QBR


Even with Max getting his playing time as the team gelled, Myles had more yds, better completion %, more TDs per game (in fact Myles threw more TDs in each game, than Max did in his best games), same number of sacks, higher passer rating and QBR, (despite Max being the better runner).

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Absolutely ridiculous comparison.

Also, ridiculous to "LOL" at the idea one may be better than the other. I am not sure who is better, but Max was a TRUE freshman.

Myles played against shittier teams and in games where LSU got flat out abused on defense. Trailing so much allows you to composite a ton of irrelevant stats such as yards and even TDs. Teams up big are more than happy to exchange yards for time.

Myles was not as good on 3rd down, which is pretty critical in tight games.

Also, and do correct me if I am wrong.

Myles had Arik Gilbert and Marshall? (I don't remember when he quit TBH) at wide receiver. I am not sure if Max did. I don't believe he did.

Lastly, if I was to make a comparison, it would be the only two games that Max actually started (bc he got full first reps) and played the full game in.

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From what I can see, it looks like Myles is the better passer. Johnson is the better improviser and leader.

Which is better for the team? Equates to more wins?

Some people will say passer, some will say the leadership. The truth is there is no one answer, what works for one team will not work for another. It completely depends on the makeup of the team around them. Depending on how the o-line develops, it could really help to have Johnson's legs. Peetz and Mangas could also throw some wrinkles into the offense that would benefit from having Johnson's mobility.

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I am fine with either one as well.

For me, it depends upon whoever gives the team the best chance to win. That may be more than just who is the better passer. I am really big on 3rd down conversion percentage. I would really like to see that number improve if Brennan is the starter. Especially against weaker teams.

Without seeing currently rehabbed Brennan, I would probably lean Brennan as my starter. However, I really would continue to monitor that 3rd down % number if we are losing close games. That is where the ability to also run is huge for me. I liked how Max was able to extend drives with his legs against Florida on the road. I also felt like Brennan had some poor throws on 3rd down or under pressure. I admit that my memory isn't the best though.

I prefer whoever the team responds to best to start.

Max Johnson is excellent runner when needed. Brennan (in small sample size) has failed to show he can get those tough yards w his scrambling IMHO. I’m going w Mad Max until Brennan proves he is a capable runner. You need a QB that can make things happen w his feet in order to win a National Championship. Orgeron already knows this.

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Florida had a better defense than Myles faced.

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Scoring Defense
Miss State: 57
Florida: 74

Total Defense
Miss State: 52
Florida:83

Passing Defense
Florida 100
Miss State 105

I am Not saying Brennan faces great defenses (Missouri and Vandy Suck) but you just think Florida has a good defense. It imperially does not.

And Ole Miss had on of the worst defenses in the country.

126th in total defense, 117th in Scoring. 125th in passing. 101st in Rushing.

I am not going to fault either for good stats vs bad defenses, but people need to look at Florida and not just assume they had a good defense because they’re Florida.