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re: Lsu needs to play like 80's miami

Posted on 12/13/09 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by Shaka Zulu
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Posted on 12/13/09 at 1:51 pm to
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not at all. it's emotion


The man thing that separates men from boys is self-control and self-denial. Both of these qualities help one to control one's emotions. You don't like somebody at work and you'd like the punch them? A man rethinks the urge for violence because he recognizes that his action not only affect him, but potentially his wife, kids, friends and even the wife, kids and friends of the object of his rage. The pussification of America is brought on by people like you who think we need more emotion. Like we need more people to go on Dr. Phil and cry about not having a daddy or something like that. Sometimes, Slow, you just gotta man up.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/13/09 at 1:53 pm to
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The man thing that separates men from boys is self-control and self-denial.

these are 18-22 year olds, not 50 year old execs

even the greek philosophy you're trying to allude to did not require soicism on the battlefield

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Like we need more people to go on Dr. Phil and cry about not having a daddy or something like that. Sometimes, Slow, you just gotta man up

wow
Posted by Shaka Zulu
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Posted on 12/13/09 at 1:54 pm to
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the sports themselves in no way reflect society

the 2 ideals are completely different and should remain separate



I guess you believe in Potemkin villages, too. Bill Clinton and more recently Tiger Woods tried that whole "compartmentalization" thing. It doesn't work so well. Only the naive resort to such shallow thinking.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/13/09 at 1:55 pm to
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I guess you believe in Potemkin villages, too. Bill Clinton and more recently Tiger Woods tried that whole "compartmentalization" thing. It doesn't work so well. Only the naive resort to such shallow thinking.

the naive...like the greeks? the guys you're tryin to emulate?
Posted by Shaka Zulu
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/13/09 at 1:58 pm to
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these are 18-22 year olds, not 50 year old execs


Regardless of age, you don't appropriate behavior unless you expect it and demand it. Again, the acquiescent attitude you put forth is just more of an example of the "pussification" that you cited.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/13/09 at 1:59 pm to
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Again, the acquiescent attitude you put forth is just more of an example of the "pussification" that you cited.

not at all. it's Hellenistic
Posted by Shaka Zulu
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/13/09 at 2:01 pm to
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he guys you're tryin to emulate


I'm not trying to emulate anyone. You mistakenly pointed to the lack of more 80's/90's UM-type behavior as the "pussification of America". You couldn't have it more backwards.
Posted by Shaka Zulu
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/13/09 at 2:02 pm to
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not at all. it's Hellenistic


Please define. This should be fun.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/13/09 at 2:04 pm to
warriors were not expected to be civil, especially on the battlefield. the warrior code.

true warriors were never fully part of civilized society

this is why hector's son cries when he enters the home with his helmet on, and stops when the helmet is removed

it's symbolic of this strange social dichotomy

the SAME THING exists in sports, movies, etc. anything that is larger than life is not part of ordinary society

trying to compare a game of violence played by super athletes who are on performance enhancing chemicals to ordinary society is a fool's errand
This post was edited on 12/13/09 at 2:05 pm
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/13/09 at 2:04 pm to
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Your saying you would be ok with a LSU football team conducting itself like those Miami teams?




on the field id love that
Posted by harry coleman beast
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Posted on 12/13/09 at 2:05 pm to
Miami did go over the top in the cotton bowl against texas in 1991 but erickson had no control. You just couldnt beat their talent. Jimmy johnson was the perfect coach at the perfect time for that university. Scnellenberger would have never let that go on and would have stopped getting those recruits. Johnson kept um comin in. If u want an example of how lsu plays with attitude and swagger and a want to beat the hell out of the other team watch lsu defense v. Arizona 2006. Such an aggressive team who celebrated, had fun, and knew they were better than u
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/13/09 at 2:05 pm to
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I'm not trying to emulate anyone.

yes, you are

your advocating a stoic society without emotion

that's very greek

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You mistakenly pointed to the lack of more 80's/90's UM-type behavior as the "pussification of America"

it is

America was scared of urban people acting urban, so they created rules to stop it so white people would feel better

that = pussification
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Posted on 12/13/09 at 2:07 pm to
Give it up man, you can't reason with SFP, he is smarter than everyone. He is all knowing, even thou he was barely out of diapers when them Miami teams were in there prime. I am just curious since he knows so much why he isn't he coaching? recruiting? or working in the media?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/13/09 at 2:08 pm to
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He is all knowing, even thou he was barely out of diapers when them Miami teams were in there prime.

their apex was 2001-2002

however, i didn't have to be around to know in hindsight how badass those 80s/90s teams were
Posted by Shaka Zulu
Member since Nov 2009
2493 posts
Posted on 12/13/09 at 2:08 pm to
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America was scared of urban people acting urban, so they created rules to stop it so white people would feel better



says a guy wearing the sportscoat with leather elbow patches.
Posted by bayou2003
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 12/13/09 at 2:09 pm to
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America was scared of urban people acting urban, so they created rules to stop it so white people would feel better

that = pussification


That's why so many people hate the NBA and call them thugs. It looks TOO URBAN when in reality your NBA players come from the same areas as your college football, basketball, and NFL players.lol. Oh and most of the NBA players went to your major Div 1 schools. You hit the nail on the head about the "urban" shite.
Posted by Shaka Zulu
Member since Nov 2009
2493 posts
Posted on 12/13/09 at 2:10 pm to
Ponchy,

You're right. Maybe one more post and I'm done.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/13/09 at 2:11 pm to
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says a guy wearing the sportscoat with leather elbow patches

what?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/13/09 at 2:11 pm to
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You're right. Maybe one more post and I'm done.

aka

owned
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Posted on 12/13/09 at 2:13 pm to
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America was scared of urban people acting urban




what is acting urban?

a mom having 7 illegitimate kids by the age of 35 by 4 different fathers?

drinking colt 45 out of a brown paper bag?

when the rims on your car are worth more than the car itself?

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