re: LSU Mentioned in Real Sports Report on CFB Recruiting Violations

They will have to punish aub &bama also. This morning Huntsville times reporting Aub with money problems with past players. It may take time but Aub. is in big trouble.

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NCAA can punish all of its big money making programs, can it?

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This reminded me of Jerry Tarkanian's old quote aobut the major schools cheating:

“The NCAA is so mad at Kentucky, they put Cleveland State on probation."

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As long as they don't touch the corn dogs. That would be going too far.

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We'd become SMU.

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What are the possible ramifications for LSU, especially if pay to play is as widespread as it appears to be?

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Off this bogus statement? NONE.

Nothing will happen to LSU besides a little bit of bad PR. I'm sure this segment is going to rip Auburn though. Commence plains burning

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I agree all the players should be paid like college football is a part time job for them but how do you make it even between all the schools?

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Can't be done for many, many reasons.

First of all, Title IX would demand that all Womens Sports athletes be paid as much as the football players were, so the cost would be absolutely prohibitive to any but the largest athletic programs.

Second of all, being paid would make them employees, opening a huge can of worms with labor laws. Equal opportunity requirements would mandate equal "hiring" opportunities for women among the footbal players. The ADA would mandate hiring accomodations for the handicapped. Wage control and collusion prohibitions would prevent the NCAA (or anyone else) from capping the "wages", making the "recruiting" process nothing but a bidding war, again eliminating all but a handful of the largest programs from significant competition (especially in conjunction with the Title IX requirements; whatever amount you bid to get a Reggie Bush or Cam Newton you then would have to pay to every athlete in softball, womens soccer, womens gymnastics, etc. In fact, Title IX could arguably then require a consequential matching for every athlete in baseball, mens basketball, mens tennis, etc.).

Third of all, there are almost certainly a myriad other logistic and regulatory consequences that no one has thought of yet that would come up to further wreck a system that is essentially working pretty well as is.

After all, no one is requiring these kids to forego getting paid in order to receive a free opportunity for a college education; they are just as free to go out and get a job as anyone else. I frankly believe they have no legitimate gripe, and the only reason anyone believes they do is merely their own projected greed.

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What do you think just because a kid goes to LSU he has some heightened sense of loyalty to the school. If a kid feels like he got a raw deal or screwed by the team and school, he will run to the first media outlet he can find.

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I believe his point was that our program is such that we don't treat the kids in such a way that they feel like they got a raw deal or screwed. Obviously there are/will be exceptions, but it seemed to me his point was that we generally have a better history of guys coming out of our program feeling like they were treatly fairly, if not well.

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If you think all of these guys are not getting money you are crazy. Do you know how easy it is to get a kid money that is untraceable. I would bet for every holiday and birthday these players get a card in the mail that is unsigned with no return address that has a few hundred dollars in it.

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I wonder why people believe things like this? I seriously doubt anyone knows a statistically significant enough sample of all college football players to make reasonable conclusion even if every one that they did know admitted taking money.

Personally, I am confident that this is nothing more than modern society's obsession with wanting to believe the worst about anyone of note and "the system" as a whole. I am generally skeptical of all such notions that "everybody knows" such-and-such bad things is/does happen "all the time". That is based on my personal experiences with too many situations where I happen to have direct knowledge that what "everybody knows" is patently false. And no, I have no link nor am I interested in sharing or discussing the particulars. If you don't believe me, I don't really care. But I'd be willing to bet many (if not most) of you have had at least one similar experience where "everybody" assumed they "knew" something about a situation, but you had actual knowledge that they were wrong.

I think only an idiot would believe that every single college football player could be getting paid significant amounts of illegal money without the NCAA (and more incredibly, the IRS) not getting wind of it and taking action. To assume that close to every single major player gets significant amounts of illegal money requires only slightly less ignorance.

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I think we need to take a serious look at giving athletes an allowance of some sort.

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We do.

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This is a debate that will likely continue for some time.

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Only as long as greed exists.

ETA: and an undeserved sense of entitlement.